Evoque - ageing badly????

Evoque - ageing badly????

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dasherdiablo1

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3,534 posts

222 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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When they first came out I loved them. Problem is too many if them are on the road which to me has diluted the look. Over the last month I have started to think they have really aged badly; the front still looks good but the side and rear profiles look really odd and oout of date - way too cluttered for a start.

I know it has always been a marmite car but does anyone's think they look a bit old fashioned?

Perec

26,336 posts

223 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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dasherdiablo1 said:
When they first came out I loved them. Problem is too many if them are on the road which to me has diluted the look. Over the last month I have started to think they have really aged badly; the front still looks good but the side and rear profiles look really odd and oout of date - way too cluttered for a start.

I know it has always been a marmite car but does anyone's think they look a bit old fashioned?
It hasn't occurred to me that they look old fashioned, but they are overly prolific and may be developing an image problem.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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I think JLR have gone down the BMW route and are creating niches where none exists....
If you want a Range Rover, get a Range Rover.
If you want a smaller Range Rover get a RRS (yeah I know it's not really smaller......)
If you want a smaller RRS get a top spec Freebie.
If you want to split hairs and want smaller than a RRS but bigger than a Freebie, get an Evoque.
They could easily drop it from the line up and I'm not sure anyone would miss it, or indeed even notice.

Podie

46,630 posts

276 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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Would be nice to see one that isn't black or white!

0llie

3,008 posts

197 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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I was discussing this with my father the other day. He really liked them when they first came out, but now sees them as dated (same as the last gen Honda Civic), although I think they still look great, provided it's not another white one!

hilly10

7,153 posts

229 months

Wednesday 20th November 2013
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Podie said:
Would be nice to see one that isn't black or white!
Come and see mine it is OrkneyGrey

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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dasherdiablo1 said:
When they first came out I loved them. Problem is too many if them are on the road which to me has diluted the look. Over the last month I have started to think they have really aged badly; the front still looks good but the side and rear profiles look really odd and oout of date - way too cluttered for a start.

I know it has always been a marmite car but does anyone's think they look a bit old fashioned?
Honestly no. But then I tend to think that people who worry about if a car looks dated or not, probably doesn't have anything better to worry about.

A.J.M

7,921 posts

187 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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Nope, still looks fresh to me.

There is a lovely dark red with black roof 5 door that drives past me when i'm out walking the dog in the morning. I think it looks superb in that colour scheme.

camel_landy

4,923 posts

184 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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...also, it's probably worth reminding ourselves that 'Landy Enthusiasts' weren't the main target market for the Evoque anyway.

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unrepentant

21,275 posts

257 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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Crossflow Kid said:
I think JLR have gone down the BMW route and are creating niches where none exists....
If you want a Range Rover, get a Range Rover.
If you want a smaller Range Rover get a RRS (yeah I know it's not really smaller......)
If you want a smaller RRS get a top spec Freebie.
If you want to split hairs and want smaller than a RRS but bigger than a Freebie, get an Evoque.
They could easily drop it from the line up and I'm not sure anyone would miss it, or indeed even notice.
Umm.. Difficult to know where to start.

It's the best selling car in the range.

Nearly everyone that buys it has not owned or in many cases ever considered a LR product before. It's possibly the most effective conquest vehicle that LR have ever produced.

Crossflow Kid said:
They could easily drop it from the line up and I'm not sure anyone would miss it, or indeed even notice.
Possibly the least informed comment I've ever seen on PH!

jamesson

2,993 posts

222 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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Ageing badly? Really? Fresh as a daisy if you ask me.

Off topic, why do people call the Freelander 'Freebie'? Is it really that difficult to say the whole name?

CAPP0

19,605 posts

204 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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I'm a massive fan of the LR brand but I do think the OP is on to something. Not sure exactly what - but I commented on this elsewhere a little while back. After the initial "shock and awe" the Evoque's initially-bright star seemed to me to fade quite quickly.

I'm not sure what and why that is though.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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hilly10 said:
Come and see mine it is OrkneyGrey
my boss's is red

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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unrepentant said:
Crossflow Kid said:
They could easily drop it from the line up and I'm not sure anyone would miss it, or indeed even notice.
Possibly the least informed comment I've ever seen on PH!
You don't get around much then. Try SP&L or the Lounge.

The original question was does it look dated and in my view it does. It looks too similar to the Freelander certain angles and a RRS from other angles, hence my comment that it could be dropped and no one would notice. It doesn't stand out enough.
Sure it' selling well, but is that because it's so very different or is it just because it's "the" Land Rover to have right now?

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 21st November 23:09

jdw1234

6,021 posts

216 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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Crossflow Kid said:
unrepentant said:
Crossflow Kid said:
They could easily drop it from the line up and I'm not sure anyone would miss it, or indeed even notice.
Possibly the least informed comment I've ever seen on PH!
You don't get around much then. Try SP&L or the Lounge.

The original question was does it look dated and in my view it does. It looks too similar to the Freelander certain angles and a RRS from other angles, hence my comment that it could be dropped and no one would notice. It doesn't stand out enough.
Sure it' selling well, but is that because it's so very different or is it just because it's "the" Land Rover to have right now?

Edited by Crossflow Kid on Thursday 21st November 23:09
Or because it is easily affordable on tick?

I agree with OP.

I think the proper RR and the new Sport are fantastic things though.

I think people might like the new version Freelander when it comes out.




camel_landy

4,923 posts

184 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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Crossflow Kid said:
The original question was does it look dated and in my view it does. It looks too similar to the Freelander certain angles and a RRS from other angles, hence my comment that it could be dropped and no one would notice. It doesn't stand out enough.
Sure it' selling well, but is that because it's so very different or is it just because it's "the" Land Rover to have right now?
I do see where you're coming from with all of this but I have divided opinions.

As 'Landy Enthusiasts', we aren't the target market so it's irrelevant if we think there's a place for it or not. However, it is still selling by the bucket load, so it must float someone’s boat!

The point about looking like the Freelander/RRS... Well, there's a reason for that. wink Range Rover is now a range/family, so there is going to be a 'family' look & feel across the range (same as with Porsche, MB, Audi, blah, blah...).

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FiF

44,151 posts

252 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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I think the Evoque hits the spot for people who want a more car like driving experience.

Can punt one with the wossname trick suspension down my local test track road quicker than would dare with any of the other products, either due to the vehicle capability or just sheer bulk. It's quite a narrow winding road known locally as The Switchback to give some idea of character.

Not sure where the comment about smaller than a RRS but bigger than a Freelander comes from. Inside and luggage space is distinctly less than a FL2. Also what's this Freebie bks. what a tt!

The FL2 is almost the same size as the original RR and is still about rght for me.

The Evoque imo will get people into the brand and maybe they will then next go for RRS or maybe FL3. Not that it will actually be called FL3 aiui.

Perec

26,336 posts

223 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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It's a good car, is cute to look at and it allows people to say they own a Range Rover without needing to stump up proper Range Rover money. It will therefore continue to sell in volume to the aspirational middle classes.

camel_landy

4,923 posts

184 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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FiF said:
The FL2 is almost the same size as the original RR and is still about rght for me.
The FL1 is the same size as the old 'Classic' RaRo.

FL2 is bigger than the FL1 !!!!

M

FiF

44,151 posts

252 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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camel_landy said:
FiF said:
The FL2 is almost the same size as the original RR and is still about rght for me.
The FL1 is the same size as the old 'Classic' RaRo.

FL2 is bigger than the FL1 !!!!

M
I sit corrected then.

Goes off to get actual dimensions and wave them under nose of my misinformant.