Things that have gone wrong with your Land Rover
Discussion
Thought I might as well add the list from my 1983 Series 3 Diesel
Both rear shocks leaking. Replaced with 4 new shocks
Bushes in springs gone and springs rusted solid. All springs replaced with GB Springs Parabolics
Indicators unreliable. Replaced with new units including new flasher
Speedo not working. Replaced cable. Still not working (That was a challenging job)
Engine difficult to start. Replaced glowplugs and fitted a trickle charger when I'm not using it. Now much easier to start
Tyre blew and other ones had age related splits so replaced with brange new Insa turbop dakar 2s. Also replaced Discovery steel wheels with original LR steel wheels.
Steering had scary amounts of free play. Adjusted steering box
Track rod ends failed MOT, so replaced both sides
Universal joint replaced for MOT
A lot of those items are age related.
To Do List (Short Term):
Fit tow bar electrics
Fit inertia seat belts
Change Gearbox oil
Rebuild Gearbox
Fit new clutch
Sort out door locks
Replace passenger door top
Replace rear door lock mechanism
Long Term:
Respray
Fit genuine station wagon window panels
Replace front wing
Rebuild Brakes
Both rear shocks leaking. Replaced with 4 new shocks
Bushes in springs gone and springs rusted solid. All springs replaced with GB Springs Parabolics
Indicators unreliable. Replaced with new units including new flasher
Speedo not working. Replaced cable. Still not working (That was a challenging job)
Engine difficult to start. Replaced glowplugs and fitted a trickle charger when I'm not using it. Now much easier to start
Tyre blew and other ones had age related splits so replaced with brange new Insa turbop dakar 2s. Also replaced Discovery steel wheels with original LR steel wheels.
Steering had scary amounts of free play. Adjusted steering box
Track rod ends failed MOT, so replaced both sides
Universal joint replaced for MOT
A lot of those items are age related.
To Do List (Short Term):
Fit tow bar electrics
Fit inertia seat belts
Change Gearbox oil
Rebuild Gearbox
Fit new clutch
Sort out door locks
Replace passenger door top
Replace rear door lock mechanism
Long Term:
Respray
Fit genuine station wagon window panels
Replace front wing
Rebuild Brakes
Eleven said:
We've had a few marques over the past 10 years and Land Rover has been the least reliable in terms of quality. I don't recall a complete breakdown but endless niggling crap relating to poor quality control.
You've done better than us then! Out of the two we've had that were total dogs, one (3.9 Classic) kept breaking down because of catastrophic electric faults and the other (4.6 P38) broke down for virtually everything under the sun! Electrical faults, total air suspension failure, slipping liners, the lot.The current one has done 110k and had a panel respray on the rear quarter when new where it went cloudy (it had probably been bashed and repaired by the dealer on the sly) had an Air Suspension ECU earth fault about 2 years in, and a couple of interior bulbs fail, that's all I can remember that isn't wear related.
Porsche were doing well in my family with a total of 5 over the years with the only non self inflicted problems (i.e. Dad and 928 Cambelt intervals) were a headgasket on a 928S4 and a stuck folding roof on a 993 Cab. Absolutely torpedoed by Dad's 997 Turbo S though, it's barely done 50k and it's had variable valve timing solenoids, Turbo VGT actuators, slipping PDK clutch, a high pressure fuel pump, not to mention the fact it rattles like a goodun and the driver's seat leather is already worn through!
Eleven said:
No I suspect he is benefiting from the Range Rover experience.
There is something that happens to some Range Rover owners leading them to deny that they ever have a moment's trouble with their cars. I experienced it first with some friends of ours who used to drive new Range Rovers when we had other marques. They flatly denied that they ever had a moment's bother. When we bought a new Range Rover ourselves and had shed loads of trouble with it they all of a sudden opened up about the catalogue of dramas they'd had over the years!
Having owned three successive Range Rovers now I am deeply sceptical when anyone says they don't have trouble with them. Buying a new Range Rover is like buying a new build house. After a fortnight you've got a snagging list which gets addressed. A month later there's another one. Eventually the lists of faults become shorter until eventually the car is right. Then there is just a slow trickle of problems.
As I type my 2011 Vogue is at the dealership for warranty repairs and software patches. One of these being the TV software upgrade. This is one reason why I know Siscar is being...erm... overly optimistic... because all the Range Rovers had the same fault and there was not a fix for it until relatively recently.
I've owned and driven dozens of Range Rovers and there is no congruence between Siscar's findings and mine. I even went on the launch of the latest model where there was a fleet of about 50 of them for us to try. Many of them had faults, particularly suspension and trim related. If cars at the flagship launch events have problems you just KNOW that the cars will no more reliable in the field.
Land rover is a manufacturer that has had a lot of reliability problems in the past, no question. But it is also one that has done a lot of work on that and got itself into a much better place.There is something that happens to some Range Rover owners leading them to deny that they ever have a moment's trouble with their cars. I experienced it first with some friends of ours who used to drive new Range Rovers when we had other marques. They flatly denied that they ever had a moment's bother. When we bought a new Range Rover ourselves and had shed loads of trouble with it they all of a sudden opened up about the catalogue of dramas they'd had over the years!
Having owned three successive Range Rovers now I am deeply sceptical when anyone says they don't have trouble with them. Buying a new Range Rover is like buying a new build house. After a fortnight you've got a snagging list which gets addressed. A month later there's another one. Eventually the lists of faults become shorter until eventually the car is right. Then there is just a slow trickle of problems.
As I type my 2011 Vogue is at the dealership for warranty repairs and software patches. One of these being the TV software upgrade. This is one reason why I know Siscar is being...erm... overly optimistic... because all the Range Rovers had the same fault and there was not a fix for it until relatively recently.
I've owned and driven dozens of Range Rovers and there is no congruence between Siscar's findings and mine. I even went on the launch of the latest model where there was a fleet of about 50 of them for us to try. Many of them had faults, particularly suspension and trim related. If cars at the flagship launch events have problems you just KNOW that the cars will no more reliable in the field.
Many of the people posting are talking about old vehicles, when you have one from ten or fifteen years ago you are talking about something that is bound to have problems, it's old and built in a time when it was never reliable in the first place.
But my experience is as stated (my userID has changed from Siscar), my current Range Rover hasn't been back to the dealer since I got it last October, there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.
TV software upgrade? What? I've probably watched TV in a range rover two or three times for a few minutes, it's about the most spectacularly useless thing the vehicle will do for me, but it does work.
We all say it as we see it, I've owned four Range Rovers here in the UK and done many km in Discoveries in Africa without any faults whatsoever other than one caused by a windscreen wiper that froze to the windscreen on a very cold morning.
HenryJM said:
Land rover is a manufacturer that has had a lot of reliability problems in the past, no question. But it is also one that has done a lot of work on that and got itself into a much better place.
Many of the people posting are talking about old vehicles, when you have one from ten or fifteen years ago you are talking about something that is bound to have problems, it's old and built in a time when it was never reliable in the first place.
But my experience is as stated (my userID has changed from Siscar), my current Range Rover hasn't been back to the dealer since I got it last October, there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.
TV software upgrade? What? I've probably watched TV in a range rover two or three times for a few minutes, it's about the most spectacularly useless thing the vehicle will do for me, but it does work.
We all say it as we see it, I've owned four Range Rovers here in the UK and done many km in Discoveries in Africa without any faults whatsoever other than one caused by a windscreen wiper that froze to the windscreen on a very cold morning.
As an aside I've have recently found a use for the TV in the Disco: it's brilliant when there is live sport coverage - keeping up with the Yorkshire TdF stages while driving across the country was fabulous.Many of the people posting are talking about old vehicles, when you have one from ten or fifteen years ago you are talking about something that is bound to have problems, it's old and built in a time when it was never reliable in the first place.
But my experience is as stated (my userID has changed from Siscar), my current Range Rover hasn't been back to the dealer since I got it last October, there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.
TV software upgrade? What? I've probably watched TV in a range rover two or three times for a few minutes, it's about the most spectacularly useless thing the vehicle will do for me, but it does work.
We all say it as we see it, I've owned four Range Rovers here in the UK and done many km in Discoveries in Africa without any faults whatsoever other than one caused by a windscreen wiper that froze to the windscreen on a very cold morning.
HenryJM said:
Eleven said:
No I suspect he is benefiting from the Range Rover experience.
There is something that happens to some Range Rover owners leading them to deny that they ever have a moment's trouble with their cars. I experienced it first with some friends of ours who used to drive new Range Rovers when we had other marques. They flatly denied that they ever had a moment's bother. When we bought a new Range Rover ourselves and had shed loads of trouble with it they all of a sudden opened up about the catalogue of dramas they'd had over the years!
Having owned three successive Range Rovers now I am deeply sceptical when anyone says they don't have trouble with them. Buying a new Range Rover is like buying a new build house. After a fortnight you've got a snagging list which gets addressed. A month later there's another one. Eventually the lists of faults become shorter until eventually the car is right. Then there is just a slow trickle of problems.
As I type my 2011 Vogue is at the dealership for warranty repairs and software patches. One of these being the TV software upgrade. This is one reason why I know Siscar is being...erm... overly optimistic... because all the Range Rovers had the same fault and there was not a fix for it until relatively recently.
I've owned and driven dozens of Range Rovers and there is no congruence between Siscar's findings and mine. I even went on the launch of the latest model where there was a fleet of about 50 of them for us to try. Many of them had faults, particularly suspension and trim related. If cars at the flagship launch events have problems you just KNOW that the cars will no more reliable in the field.
Land rover is a manufacturer that has had a lot of reliability problems in the past, no question. But it is also one that has done a lot of work on that and got itself into a much better place.There is something that happens to some Range Rover owners leading them to deny that they ever have a moment's trouble with their cars. I experienced it first with some friends of ours who used to drive new Range Rovers when we had other marques. They flatly denied that they ever had a moment's bother. When we bought a new Range Rover ourselves and had shed loads of trouble with it they all of a sudden opened up about the catalogue of dramas they'd had over the years!
Having owned three successive Range Rovers now I am deeply sceptical when anyone says they don't have trouble with them. Buying a new Range Rover is like buying a new build house. After a fortnight you've got a snagging list which gets addressed. A month later there's another one. Eventually the lists of faults become shorter until eventually the car is right. Then there is just a slow trickle of problems.
As I type my 2011 Vogue is at the dealership for warranty repairs and software patches. One of these being the TV software upgrade. This is one reason why I know Siscar is being...erm... overly optimistic... because all the Range Rovers had the same fault and there was not a fix for it until relatively recently.
I've owned and driven dozens of Range Rovers and there is no congruence between Siscar's findings and mine. I even went on the launch of the latest model where there was a fleet of about 50 of them for us to try. Many of them had faults, particularly suspension and trim related. If cars at the flagship launch events have problems you just KNOW that the cars will no more reliable in the field.
Many of the people posting are talking about old vehicles, when you have one from ten or fifteen years ago you are talking about something that is bound to have problems, it's old and built in a time when it was never reliable in the first place.
But my experience is as stated (my userID has changed from Siscar), my current Range Rover hasn't been back to the dealer since I got it last October, there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.
TV software upgrade? What? I've probably watched TV in a range rover two or three times for a few minutes, it's about the most spectacularly useless thing the vehicle will do for me, but it does work.
We all say it as we see it, I've owned four Range Rovers here in the UK and done many km in Discoveries in Africa without any faults whatsoever other than one caused by a windscreen wiper that froze to the windscreen on a very cold morning.
HenryJM said:
Land rover is a manufacturer that has had a lot of reliability problems in the past, no question. But it is also one that has done a lot of work on that and got itself into a much better place.
Many of the people posting are talking about old vehicles, when you have one from ten or fifteen years ago you are talking about something that is bound to have problems, it's old and built in a time when it was never reliable in the first place.
But my experience is as stated (my userID has changed from Siscar), my current Range Rover hasn't been back to the dealer since I got it last October, there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.
TV software upgrade? What? I've probably watched TV in a range rover two or three times for a few minutes, it's about the most spectacularly useless thing the vehicle will do for me, but it does work.
We all say it as we see it, I've owned four Range Rovers here in the UK and done many km in Discoveries in Africa without any faults whatsoever other than one caused by a windscreen wiper that froze to the windscreen on a very cold morning.
Errr...There are all ready service bulletins out there on how to fix leaks in the latest ones. Its 2013 and they are still building cars that leaf FFS!! Also the previous generation of Range Rovers had their fair share of common problems. Many of the people posting are talking about old vehicles, when you have one from ten or fifteen years ago you are talking about something that is bound to have problems, it's old and built in a time when it was never reliable in the first place.
But my experience is as stated (my userID has changed from Siscar), my current Range Rover hasn't been back to the dealer since I got it last October, there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.
TV software upgrade? What? I've probably watched TV in a range rover two or three times for a few minutes, it's about the most spectacularly useless thing the vehicle will do for me, but it does work.
We all say it as we see it, I've owned four Range Rovers here in the UK and done many km in Discoveries in Africa without any faults whatsoever other than one caused by a windscreen wiper that froze to the windscreen on a very cold morning.
Also, some of the views on here can be a skewed as people have new ish ones with warranty, so it f goes wrong, it just goes back to the garage.
Also on other LR forums, the first advice they give on people buying something like a D3 is to make sure you have a third party warranty
Still, there is something about LRs that get under your skin....and your wallet!
Eleven said:
Ah, you haven't been on the Range Rover owner message alignment course I see.. Not to worry, if you'd just sit down in this comfortable chair I'm going to shine this light in your face briefly. Won't hurt a bit, you might feel a slight pricking sensation in your arm, it's just something to relax you. Now breath deeply and repeat after me:
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
Now then, if anyone ever asks you whether you've had any problems whatsoever with your Range Rover what are you going to say bakerstreet? "My Range Rover has never developed a single fault" got it? That's the spirit.
What a complete jerk you are. You are obviously always right, others are obviously always wrong - in your head."My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
"My Range Rover has never developed a single fault"
Now then, if anyone ever asks you whether you've had any problems whatsoever with your Range Rover what are you going to say bakerstreet? "My Range Rover has never developed a single fault" got it? That's the spirit.
We say what we think, we report our own experiences, if my experiences and yours don't match should that be a surprise?Clearly it is to you.
Maybe it's time for you to grow up a little and accept that we aren't all the same, we don't all have the same experiences, we say it as we see it and just because we don't all see the same thing doesn't mean either one is definitively right or wrong.
HenryJM said:
What a complete jerk you are. You are obviously always right, others are obviously always wrong - in your head.
We say what we think, we report our own experiences, if my experiences and yours don't match should that be a surprise?Clearly it is to you.
Maybe it's time for you to grow up a little and accept that we aren't all the same, we don't all have the same experiences, we say it as we see it and just because we don't all see the same thing doesn't mean either one is definitively right or wrong.
Now no one invited Mr Grumpy to the party did they Henry. If you've never had a problem with your Range Rovers I'm delighted for you. You'll just forgive me for not believing a word of it. We say what we think, we report our own experiences, if my experiences and yours don't match should that be a surprise?Clearly it is to you.
Maybe it's time for you to grow up a little and accept that we aren't all the same, we don't all have the same experiences, we say it as we see it and just because we don't all see the same thing doesn't mean either one is definitively right or wrong.
Eleven said:
Now no one invited Mr Grumpy to the party did they Henry. If you've never had a problem with your Range Rovers I'm delighted for you. You'll just forgive me for not believing a word of it.
I really don't forgive you for calling me a liar, on absolutely no evidence and no knowledge of who I am and what I have experienced and you are coming out with statements to that effect.I am not a liar and my experience has been exactly as I described.
I suggest that you confine yourself to your own experiences and don't insult people you don't know over situations about which you have no knowledge.
A.J.M said:
I would like to add a f
ked hand brake to the list.
Luckily since I have a proper gearbox, I can just leave it in P and not worry about it rolling away.
Personally, and I've only run my D3 for a year, I reckon that the handbrake issue is entirely down to poor servicing - not helped by an over-optimistic schedule.ked hand brake to the list.Luckily since I have a proper gearbox, I can just leave it in P and not worry about it rolling away.
A.J.M said:
The entire hand brake was stripped, cleaned, had new shoes etc fitted by my Indy in Novemeber..
He set it up and did the bedding in process as well. It's been done to the exact spec etc that LR would do.
I've no idea why it would be throwing up errors so soon after it.
Bloody car!
EPB is the least of my worries although I had mine lubed a few weeks ago. I've had 3 sets of rear discs and new rear calipers on both sides. On seperate occasions the calipers have seized, taking the discs out and you must replace them as a pair along with the pads. And yes, they have been serviced! He set it up and did the bedding in process as well. It's been done to the exact spec etc that LR would do.
I've no idea why it would be throwing up errors so soon after it.
Bloody car!
Last bill was for the AC evaporator and new front discs and pads. £800 on top of the £750 service bill I had 6 weeks earlier. I will not swap for something newer as I've spent too much and need to see a return. Counter intuitive I know.
Don't pull away with the EPB applied, it stretches the cable and knackers it. If you don't use it, it can also seize up.
Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 10th July 18:16
Mine is a 2004 54 plate so an early one.
The epb is used daily, was set up properly and has still thrown a huff..
I got my air con condensor sorted for £207 inc buying a brand new one from LR.
It's little niggles but they have a habit of growing into big ones if ignored, so not giving them the chance to grow.
The epb is used daily, was set up properly and has still thrown a huff..
I got my air con condensor sorted for £207 inc buying a brand new one from LR.
It's little niggles but they have a habit of growing into big ones if ignored, so not giving them the chance to grow.
A.J.M said:
The entire hand brake was stripped, cleaned, had new shoes etc fitted by my Indy in Novemeber..
He set it up and did the bedding in process as well. It's been done to the exact spec etc that LR would do.
I've no idea why it would be throwing up errors so soon after it.
Bloody car!
Granted, but if a previous owner never had it looked at and it's been through a few overtorques as a result then that could well have been the death of it.He set it up and did the bedding in process as well. It's been done to the exact spec etc that LR would do.
I've no idea why it would be throwing up errors so soon after it.
Bloody car!
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