New Discovery Sport - Who's ordered?
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smudger911 said:
My wife and I managed alittle under 100 miles in a DS HSE on Saturday courtesy of JLR & our local LR dealer. The distance was a mixture of A & B roads – no off roading or anything close to getting it muddy!
The DS had the 9 speed auto which works well with the existing SD4 engine and surprisingly JLR have managed to remove the annoying half second lag from the FL2 which is present if you intend to pull away quickly.
Engine noise is reduced in the cabin with smooth changes up and down. There is still a certain amount of road noise as with the FL2. Ride over rutted and pot holed B roads is very good – air suspension doing its job very well. Back to the interior – usual gadgets and switch gear that you would expect on an HSE model. The extra 2x seats in the boot area are tiny and imb for those emergency trips but useful all the same.
The overall feel of the DS seems less solid than the existing FL2, and there were several squeaks and rattles coming from the boot area. We were told by the JLR rep these vehicles are 98% Production models and those small issues will be ironed out pre customer deliveries and I have no doubt these will be rectified.
While the DS is ok and a reasonable drive we both came away feeling underwhelmed. In the flesh the DS looks very similar to Kia or Nissan’s soft roaders and has (for us anyway) lost it’s appeal. We don’t doubt they will sell by the boat load, yet after the drive neither of us felt we must must complete our order and take delivery asap… If you are not a badge snob then a Nissan or other manufacturer would do the same job and you could save between £15k ~ £20k in the process – just donning my flame suit after that last sentence ?
Out of interest, since you're comparing with your from FL, have you driven the Evqoue similarly to the DS and if so how does it compare?The DS had the 9 speed auto which works well with the existing SD4 engine and surprisingly JLR have managed to remove the annoying half second lag from the FL2 which is present if you intend to pull away quickly.
Engine noise is reduced in the cabin with smooth changes up and down. There is still a certain amount of road noise as with the FL2. Ride over rutted and pot holed B roads is very good – air suspension doing its job very well. Back to the interior – usual gadgets and switch gear that you would expect on an HSE model. The extra 2x seats in the boot area are tiny and imb for those emergency trips but useful all the same.
The overall feel of the DS seems less solid than the existing FL2, and there were several squeaks and rattles coming from the boot area. We were told by the JLR rep these vehicles are 98% Production models and those small issues will be ironed out pre customer deliveries and I have no doubt these will be rectified.
While the DS is ok and a reasonable drive we both came away feeling underwhelmed. In the flesh the DS looks very similar to Kia or Nissan’s soft roaders and has (for us anyway) lost it’s appeal. We don’t doubt they will sell by the boat load, yet after the drive neither of us felt we must must complete our order and take delivery asap… If you are not a badge snob then a Nissan or other manufacturer would do the same job and you could save between £15k ~ £20k in the process – just donning my flame suit after that last sentence ?
HarryW said:
XC60 is a good shout, I'll add it to my list........
Don't forget the Jaguar C-X17BTW The Kia Sorento is very basic and costs the best part of £30k. I drove a new one (40 miles young) as a hire car for a few days recently, for over 300 miles. A basic Ford Focus is more refined!
Phil. said:
Don't forget the Jaguar C-X17
BTW The Kia Sorento is very basic and costs the best part of £30k. I drove a new one (40 miles young) as a hire car for a few days recently, for over 300 miles. A basic Ford Focus is more refined!
When's the jag out?BTW The Kia Sorento is very basic and costs the best part of £30k. I drove a new one (40 miles young) as a hire car for a few days recently, for over 300 miles. A basic Ford Focus is more refined!
I did say the sorento wasn't for me.....
Phil. said:
Out of interest, since you're comparing with your from FL, have you driven the Evqoue similarly to the DS and if so how does it compare?
Yes had an Evoque for 3 days as a loaner. Feels more solid than the DS did although similar visibility due to the reduced amount of glass in the DS vs the FL2unrepentant said:
smudger911 said:
Ride over rutted and pot holed B roads is very good – air suspension doing its job very well.
Disco Sport doesn't have air suspension.HarryW said:
smudger911 said:
My wife and I managed alittle under 100 miles in a DS HSE on Saturday courtesy of JLR & our local LR dealer. The distance was a mixture of A & B roads – no off roading or anything close to getting it muddy!
The DS had the 9 speed auto which works well with the existing SD4 engine and surprisingly JLR have managed to remove the annoying half second lag from the FL2 which is present if you intend to pull away quickly.
Engine noise is reduced in the cabin with smooth changes up and down. There is still a certain amount of road noise as with the FL2. Ride over rutted and pot holed B roads is very good – air suspension doing its job very well. Back to the interior – usual gadgets and switch gear that you would expect on an HSE model. The extra 2x seats in the boot area are tiny and imb for those emergency trips but useful all the same.
The overall feel of the DS seems less solid than the existing FL2, and there were several squeaks and rattles coming from the boot area. We were told by the JLR rep these vehicles are 98% Production models and those small issues will be ironed out pre customer deliveries and I have no doubt these will be rectified.
While the DS is ok and a reasonable drive we both came away feeling underwhelmed. In the flesh the DS looks very similar to Kia or Nissan’s soft roaders and has (for us anyway) lost it’s appeal. We don’t doubt they will sell by the boat load, yet after the drive neither of us felt we must must complete our order and take delivery asap… If you are not a badge snob then a Nissan or other manufacturer would do the same job and you could save between £15k ~ £20k in the process – just donning my flame suit after that last sentence ?
Thanks for the unbiased real world feedback, not driven one myself but sat in one and kicked its tyres. Sad really as I really wanted it to be a step improvement over the FL2 and from what you are saying it isn't and certainly not that of a £40k car. I said at the time it makes the 5 door Evoque look good value....The DS had the 9 speed auto which works well with the existing SD4 engine and surprisingly JLR have managed to remove the annoying half second lag from the FL2 which is present if you intend to pull away quickly.
Engine noise is reduced in the cabin with smooth changes up and down. There is still a certain amount of road noise as with the FL2. Ride over rutted and pot holed B roads is very good – air suspension doing its job very well. Back to the interior – usual gadgets and switch gear that you would expect on an HSE model. The extra 2x seats in the boot area are tiny and imb for those emergency trips but useful all the same.
The overall feel of the DS seems less solid than the existing FL2, and there were several squeaks and rattles coming from the boot area. We were told by the JLR rep these vehicles are 98% Production models and those small issues will be ironed out pre customer deliveries and I have no doubt these will be rectified.
While the DS is ok and a reasonable drive we both came away feeling underwhelmed. In the flesh the DS looks very similar to Kia or Nissan’s soft roaders and has (for us anyway) lost it’s appeal. We don’t doubt they will sell by the boat load, yet after the drive neither of us felt we must must complete our order and take delivery asap… If you are not a badge snob then a Nissan or other manufacturer would do the same job and you could save between £15k ~ £20k in the process – just donning my flame suit after that last sentence ?
Quite surprised it's less solid than the FL2. I will still try one when they arrive, ever hopeful, but I suspect I will come to the same conclusion. What are the options in the medium SUV market?
I'm now waiting on the Merc GLC which is out next summer, I expect the quality of that and Mercedes willingness to deal may sway me. I Actually quite like the Outlander, it's very good value compared to the DS, just that is now being replaced end of next year. Q5? Wouldn't give Audi a penny of my money personally. X3? maybe, but 12 month wait for them now.
Kia? Sorento, the ZdS actually looks like it a lot IMHO! There's a lot to commend it, but it's not for me. Evoque? Too small inside with low roof line, shame they didn't put a Evoque-esk quality interior in the DS....
HarryW said:
When's the jag out?
I did say the sorento wasn't for me.....
CX17 is a while away.I did say the sorento wasn't for me.....
Drive a Disco Sport yourself and make up your own mind. Having been at Gaydon and Solihull a couple of months ago and having spoken to lots of people at JLR I have every confidence that the car will be awesome. I'm sure that it will be a huge leap forward from the Freelander and will be every bit as good as the Evoque (with which it shares most of its components) while at the same time bringing additional versatility. Since 2011 JLR have launched Evoque, FFRR, RRS, F-Type, F-Type Coupe and XE, all of which are fantastic vehicles. This will be too.
unrepentant/ said:
Since 2011 JLR have launched Evoque, FFRR, RRS, F-Type, F-Type Coupe and XE, all of which are fantastic vehicles. This will be too.
Having driven nearly all of the above and still owning two, I have to agree with this sentiment. Why would LR make a mistake and devalue their brand with the DS? All the reviews are pretty good too.However, I appreciate Smudger's opinion and would be interested to know more about what turned them away from purchasing. Which was the dominent characteristic they disliked. Was it the overall look (mentioned), the ride, the engine/transmission, or the interior, or something else?
With regard to the look of the DS, I'm not too keen on it in some of the lighter metallic colors we have seen so far. I much prefer it in red or grey with the black pack added.
HarryW said:
Thanks for the unbiased real world feedback, not driven one myself but sat in one and kicked its tyres. Sad really as I really wanted it to be a step improvement over the FL2 and from what you are saying it isn't and certainly not that of a £40k car. I said at the time it makes the 5 door Evoque look good value....
Quite surprised it's less solid than the FL2. I will still try one when they arrive, ever hopeful, but I suspect I will come to the same conclusion. What are the options in the medium SUV market?
I'm now waiting on the Merc GLC which is out next summer, I expect the quality of that and Mercedes willingness to deal may sway me. I Actually quite like the Outlander, it's very good value compared to the DS, just that is now being replaced end of next year. Q5? Wouldn't give Audi a penny of my money personally. X3? maybe, but 12 month wait for them now.
Kia? Sorento, the ZdS actually looks like it a lot IMHO! There's a lot to commend it, but it's not for me. Evoque? Too small inside with low roof line, shame they didn't put a Evoque-esk quality interior in the DS....
If you are able to make a decision without waiting for the next latest SUV to be launched, my guess is you'll go for the X3 as it's the safe option Quite surprised it's less solid than the FL2. I will still try one when they arrive, ever hopeful, but I suspect I will come to the same conclusion. What are the options in the medium SUV market?
I'm now waiting on the Merc GLC which is out next summer, I expect the quality of that and Mercedes willingness to deal may sway me. I Actually quite like the Outlander, it's very good value compared to the DS, just that is now being replaced end of next year. Q5? Wouldn't give Audi a penny of my money personally. X3? maybe, but 12 month wait for them now.
Kia? Sorento, the ZdS actually looks like it a lot IMHO! There's a lot to commend it, but it's not for me. Evoque? Too small inside with low roof line, shame they didn't put a Evoque-esk quality interior in the DS....
IMHO the Merc brand is still too 'old', the Porsche Macan is too expensive when properly specified, and the Outlander is too basic. Don't forget the Kuga, CRV and Qashqai. We've covered the Kia already 
Exactly, why do peeps think £40k is too expensive when far inferior products (Kia, Honda) are far inferior at £30k. The X3 is a jacked up 3 Series car, not an off-road SUV. We have our drive in the NY & while I expect to be underwhelmed as I'd rather have a Rangie, it should be an awesome family wagon!
Triple7 said:
And is this personal experience or hearsay, says the AM driver! ??
Its what I think, which is what you asked, they are the reasons I think its not worth £40k where competitors are. I said 2 of the points arent proven, do you disagree, have you ran a DS long term?
Do you think the LR 2.2 SD4 is as good as the comparable BMW diesel? I have the LR engine in a FL2, and I don't.
Edited by yellowbentines on Tuesday 23 December 22:50
Think we are talking about different things.....
No not had any experience of the BMW units, yes I do think the 2.2 in our FL2 is too rough & rugged/inefficient/dirty in today's age, especially in the Evoque & new DS, but it is very reliable.
No not had any experience of the BMW units, yes I do think the 2.2 in our FL2 is too rough & rugged/inefficient/dirty in today's age, especially in the Evoque & new DS, but it is very reliable.
Edited by Triple7 on Wednesday 24th December 08:53
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