Range Rovers and Trackers

[grand cherokee]

as in another topic I'm about to get an 18 month old L405

rang my insurers for quotes

only one would quote without a tracker - £3500 pa

with the most basic tracker (£180) - £600 and pennies

also I have been told the car I may buy has a Cat 5 tracker (£800)

so, are trackers really that effective?

[paintman]

Appears the insurance company thinks so in a BIG way!
I was in the job when they first came out & was very impressed then.
I presume you have had a look at their website?
http://www.tracker.co.uk/
Don't forget there is a subscription involved.

Edited by paintman on Wednesday 19th November 19:11

[V8LM]

paintman said:

Appears the insurance company thinks so in a BIG way!
I was in the job when they first came out & was very impressed then.
I presume you have had a look at their website?
http://www.tracker.co.uk/
Don't forget there is a subscription involved.

Edited by paintman on Wednesday 19th November 19:11

Does the insurance say to have a tracking device fitted, or a tracking device fitted and any subscription paid for?

[grand cherokee]

V8LM said:

Does the insurance say to have a tracking device fitted, or a tracking device fitted and any subscription paid for?

if you don't pay the subscription the device is not 'turned on'

my L322 has a tracker fitted but is not 'turned on' as there was no reduction in premium?

[grand cherokee]

paintman said:

Appears the insurance company thinks so in a BIG way!
I was in the job when they first came out & was very impressed then.
I presume you have had a look at their website?
http://www.tracker.co.uk/
Don't forget there is a subscription involved.

Edited by paintman on Wednesday 19th November 19:11

many thanks

apparently thieves do not know the car has a tracker fitted unless you display a badge 'Tracker Fitted' but given this may not be true the tracker does not stop attempted theft!

I imagine the real pro's know how to deal with a tracker?

[foliedouce]

I have been doing some research on trackers for my new Defender and came across this

http://www.trackerfit.co.uk/brands/trafficmaster/r...

The thing that caught my eye was the anti key cloning technology as that seems to be the issue (accordingly to the newspaper reports) on the L405

I have no idea what they are like but they seem to have good reviews and are Thatcham Cat 6. I've been wondering why they are not Cat 5 though.

Edited by foliedouce on Thursday 20th November 11:24

ETA - be interesting to hear how your cat 5 tracker works

On the defender that's what I'm thinking about fitting as they seem to have the same issue with theft as RR but are easier to nick

Edited by foliedouce on Thursday 20th November 11:30

[grand cherokee]

foliedouce said:

I have been doing some research on trackers for my new Defender and came across this

http://www.trackerfit.co.uk/brands/trafficmaster/r...

The thing that caught my eye was the anti key cloning technology as that seems to be the issue (accordingly to the newspaper reports) on the L405

I have no idea what they are like but they seem to have good reviews and are Thatcham Cat 6. I've been wondering why they are not Cat 5 though.

Edited by foliedouce on Thursday 20th November 11:24

ETA - be interesting to hear how your cat 5 tracker works

On the defender that's what I'm thinking about fitting as they seem to have the same issue with theft as RR but are easier to nick

Edited by foliedouce on Thursday 20th November 11:30

i'll get full details for you when I test drive the car tomorrow

any links please to key 'cloning' with the L405 please?

[foliedouce]

grand cherokee said:

foliedouce said:

I have been doing some research on trackers for my new Defender and came across this

http://www.trackerfit.co.uk/brands/trafficmaster/r...

The thing that caught my eye was the anti key cloning technology as that seems to be the issue (accordingly to the newspaper reports) on the L405

I have no idea what they are like but they seem to have good reviews and are Thatcham Cat 6. I've been wondering why they are not Cat 5 though.

Edited by foliedouce on Thursday 20th November 11:24

ETA - be interesting to hear how your cat 5 tracker works

On the defender that's what I'm thinking about fitting as they seem to have the same issue with theft as RR but are easier to nick

Edited by foliedouce on Thursday 20th November 11:30

i'll get full details for you when I test drive the car tomorrow

any links please to key 'cloning' with the L405 please?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2809038/Insurance-companies-refuse-insure-Range-Rovers-London-unless-owners-secure-parking-spate-thefts.html

http://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/oct/27/thiev...

[911Thrasher]

Thieves know exactly how to disarm a Tracker...had my car stolen off Sloane Square...within 5min from Tracker giving me a call to advise the car was moving they lost complete track of it!!!

I guess they are good enough to tell you your car is being stolen just now...but nothing more.

Totally useless!

[BlackGT3]

I have fitted this http://www.mtrackonline.co.uk/ to my car as I intend to change for another new RRS. Thieves generally know where to look for hard wired tracking devices. I liked the MTrack device as 1, being wireless it can be transferred to my next car when I change it and 2, It's much harder to locate.

[grand cherokee]

I've bought the Range Rover - it has a Trackstar Cat 5 tracker fitted - apparently the only one approved by LR

subs are £189/year or £549 for three years

full details on Trackstar web site - seems to cover every eventuality?

I can imagine to start with I might forget to take the Tracker module to the car and thus Trackstar will ring me thinking the car has been stolen

been told obviously under no circumstance put the tracker module on the keyring - lol!

Edited by grand cherokee on Wednesday 26th November 09:46

[grand cherokee]

foliedouce said:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2809038/In...

http://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/oct/27/thiev...

many thanks - bloody frightening especially if you live in London

[omodos]

"if you don't pay the subscription the device is not 'turned on'

my L322 has a tracker fitted but is not 'turned on' as there was no reduction in premium?"

turned on i guess you mean in the event of you reporting a theft they enable it ? or is device always on regardless?

[grand cherokee]

omodos said:

"if you don't pay the subscription the device is not 'turned on'

my L322 has a tracker fitted but is not 'turned on' as there was no reduction in premium?"

turned on i guess you mean in the event of you reporting a theft they enable it ? or is device always on regardless?

'turned on' by the company who monitor/track the vehicle - for this you pay an annual subscription

in the case of my L322 my insurers would not offer any discount for a tracking system so no use paying for it - the system is still installed in the car and can be activated if a new purchaser wants/needs a tracker

my new L405 had to have a tracker fitted otherwise it was virtually uninsurable

[grand cherokee]

quick update

Trackstar have been superb with rapid response

the car is at main dealers for service and warranty work - twice it has been moved around the 'yard' without the tracker fob being present and I've received notification by phone within minutes

excellent

[911wise]

Thieves will just steal the car and leave it parked up on a side street for a week, if it's still there after a week odds are it doesn't have a tracker and they will then take it away.

[orbtar]

Best to look for another insurance company and find one that doesn't insist on you fitting/subscribing. Tracker units are a waste of time, masses of cars go missing that have had trackers fitted, most professional car thieves know exactly where to find and remove the device.

[grand cherokee]

orbtar said:

Best to look for another insurance company and find one that doesn't insist on you fitting/subscribing. Tracker units are a waste of time, masses of cars go missing that have had trackers fitted, most professional car thieves know exactly where to find and remove the device.

best of luck finding an insurer who does not insist on fitting a tracker

my broker is a Range Rover owner and a member of this site - and only one quote of £3500 was found without a tracker and that's in Notts NOT London/SE

the car already had the Trackstar system fitted as its the only one approved by LR - so it was just a case of paying the subscription which reduced the cost of insurance to pennies over £600

[orbtar]

grand cherokee said:

orbtar said:

Best to look for another insurance company and find one that doesn't insist on you fitting/subscribing. Tracker units are a waste of time, masses of cars go missing that have had trackers fitted, most professional car thieves know exactly where to find and remove the device.

best of luck finding an insurer who does not insist on fitting a tracker

I have never been asked to fit a Tracker by my insurance company, I was asked once by another company but only when I was going to take up dealer offer of free insurance which I declined once I realised there was a catch.