Disco 4 in the snow ?

Disco 4 in the snow ?

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so called

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9,090 posts

209 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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Hi all, I just wanted to ask opinions regarding my selection of vehicle for a visit to Germany next week.
I have an MB CLS which already has Winter tyres fitted but I would prefer to make the trip in my Wifes Discovery 4 which has the factory fitted 'all season' tyres.
Can someone please give me an idea of what I can expect from the Discovery with these tyres if we have snow.
I cant see the Discovery being any worse than the rear wheel MB regardless of tyres.

I'm in Germany at the moment and, although no snow yet, the temp is down this week so its expected any time.

Done the December Christmas Markets trip many times in TVR's which normally turns onto a white knuckle ride when the weather changes. yikes
First time for years that I have a choice from sensible cars smile
(too correct myself, we did it in the Evoque last year as my Wife refused to do another TVR winter trip smile )

Any comments gratefully received.
Thanks,
Tony.

Edited by so called on Monday 1st December 11:27

grand cherokee

2,432 posts

199 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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I've driven a Discovery in the snow on factory fitted tyres and it was fine

obviously, a proper winter tyre like the Vredestein Wintrac 4 would be better

A.J.M

7,908 posts

186 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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They are very good in the snow.

Put it in grass, gravel and snow mode on the terrain response, switch off HDC as you won't need that unless your going down really steep hills.
Take it easy with steering and throttle etc, the usual sensible stuff.

Only thing I would say is leave suitable braking distances for stopping at junctions, they are heavy so if they do slide, it's nice to have decent run off area to catch it.
You'll be fine, just remember to take pictures of it in the snow. hehe

camel_landy

4,898 posts

183 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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grand cherokee said:
I've driven a Discovery in the snow on factory fitted tyres and it was fine

obviously, a proper winter tyre like the Vredestein Wintrac 4 would be better
^^^ +1...

Just take it easy. The D4 is a heavy car, which will take a lot of stopping if slippery!!! To be on the safe side, stick a set of snow chains in the boot too.

M

so called

Original Poster:

9,090 posts

209 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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Thanks for the feedback chaps.
Unfortunately we didn't encounter snow in the Evoque last year so no grasp of the terrain mode performance.
Yes, I'll bear in mind the weight issue. Don't want to prang my Wife's car, it could be painful smash

Yes, pictures if we get snow.

Cheers.

hman

7,487 posts

194 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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as with all 4x4's quattro etc. you have twice the traction - but the same amount of brakes.

Jurgen Schmidt

824 posts

201 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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You have great taste in cars!

Drumroll

3,756 posts

120 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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Just check the tyres comply with German law. Not too sure of the law but I believe they actually have to state "Snow" on them

camel_landy

4,898 posts

183 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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Drumroll said:
Just check the tyres comply with German law. Not too sure of the law but I believe they actually have to state "Snow" on them
It's something like that... Or "M+S" and/or the mountain scene logo.

M

TheAllSeeingPie

865 posts

135 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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I thought you only have to have M+S, Snow or the mountain logo if the car is registered there? Although some regions will stop you going up in the mountains without winter tyres. Make sure if you use snow chains you put them on all 4 wheels, or if you only have a pair stick them on the front. My FFRR used to drive the same in slushy, icy and cold conditions on winters as it did in the dry on summers as long as you wern't driving like a twonk. In snow it was absolutely fantastic but sometimes did need a bit of extra stopping distance. You can turn on grass, gravel & snow if it makes you feel better (and you want to see the diffs lock on the displays) but the programs only marginally adjust the settings and when the wheels slip in normal mode it tends to move towards a GGS-like mode automatically.

so called

Original Poster:

9,090 posts

209 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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Jurgen Schmidt said:
You have great taste in cars!
laugh you too Jurgen. thumbup

camel_landy

4,898 posts

183 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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TheAllSeeingPie said:
Make sure if you use snow chains you put them on all 4 wheels, or if you only have a pair stick them on the front.
IIRC - The manual says to only use chains on the front.

M

Lost soul

8,712 posts

182 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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camel_landy said:
Or "M+S"

M
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TheAllSeeingPie

865 posts

135 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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camel_landy said:
IIRC - The manual says to only use chains on the front.

M
Fair enough, I thought the systems between the L322 and Disco 4 were similar and I always went for 4 chains in deep snow after I read it in the manual. I tried just the fronts once and it basically meant the car went into FWD as the rears were useless.

so called

Original Poster:

9,090 posts

209 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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TheAllSeeingPie said:
I thought you only have to have M+S, Snow or the mountain logo if the car is registered there? Although some regions will stop you going up in the mountains without winter tyres. Make sure if you use snow chains you put them on all 4 wheels, or if you only have a pair stick them on the front. My FFRR used to drive the same in slushy, icy and cold conditions on winters as it did in the dry on summers as long as you wern't driving like a twonk. In snow it was absolutely fantastic but sometimes did need a bit of extra stopping distance. You can turn on grass, gravel & snow if it makes you feel better (and you want to see the diffs lock on the displays) but the programs only marginally adjust the settings and when the wheels slip in normal mode it tends to move towards a GGS-like mode automatically.
That was my understanding. I've been coming over in the winter for many years and bought winters for the first time only last year. Never had a problem with the Police, only with TVR's smile
In the past, I was told I may get stopped in certain areas.
As we're heading to Braunschweig in the north then a trip to Goslar is planned but I think we should be OK as that's at the foot of the Hertz Mountains (large hills).
Thanks again,
Tony.

camel_landy

4,898 posts

183 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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TheAllSeeingPie said:
camel_landy said:
IIRC - The manual says to only use chains on the front.

M
Fair enough, I thought the systems between the L322 and Disco 4 were similar and I always went for 4 chains in deep snow after I read it in the manual. I tried just the fronts once and it basically meant the car went into FWD as the rears were useless.
I think it's more to do with damage to suspension components rather than ability (L322 & L319/L320 are completely different platforms).

M

TheAllSeeingPie

865 posts

135 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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Well that's good to know, I was thinking if hiring a disco for my next alps trip. I knew they were different platforms, but other discos I'd been out with used 4 chains, it's worth knowing though so cheers.

jamiebae

6,245 posts

211 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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The CLS will be fine, unless you're heading up to a ski resort. Lots of people use RWD saloons here and on winter tyres they'll deal with anything that the normal roads encounter, I don't think the Disco would be any better in 95% of the conditions you might encounter.

LimaDelta

6,520 posts

218 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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Good here.



No chains and on the OEM Pirelli Scorpions.

so called

Original Poster:

9,090 posts

209 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2014
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jamiebae said:
The CLS will be fine, unless you're heading up to a ski resort. Lots of people use RWD saloons here and on winter tyres they'll deal with anything that the normal roads encounter, I don't think the Disco would be any better in 95% of the conditions you might encounter.
Yes, The CLS is with me now in Germany and gets plenty of winter experience here.
I'm heading home today in the CLS and then coming back again on Sunday.
My choice being the CLS with winter tyres or the Discovery without.

I fancy doing the drive in the Discovery as it will be the first time and I wondered which might be considered the more sensible choice.

I guess that in either case the weather will need to pretty bad to be a problem. That was not the case in my TVR experiences.