Current Range Rover

Current Range Rover

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Eleven

26,271 posts

221 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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BLUETHUNDER said:
Just took one on at work against better advice. Two days in and problems already. Turn the car on full lock and the wheel is rubbing somewhere. Three warning lights have appeared on the dash. Now back at the dealers. £106,000 for an expensive lounge.
Standard.

Mine has been away for a month or so now with a mystery fault. I was due to replace it in June, but the salesman hasn't called me about the demo and in light of this I won't be reminding him. However much I like these vehicles, I'd feel I'd mugged myself if I bought another and it was as unreliable as its predecessors.


swisstoni

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16,844 posts

278 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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I'm picking mine up this week; not feeling too optimistic after all the tales of woe. What would you say to look for on initial inspection?

SlackBladder

2,579 posts

202 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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Just put a deposit down on this:-

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...


Not sure I should have read this thread now.

grand cherokee

2,432 posts

198 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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my 2013 car has developed an annoying intermittent 'buzz' from somewhere in the dash

the driver side deployable side step was replaced due to rust - and now the steps are out of synch which dealer cannot correct and is awaiting a software fix from LR

the other annoying thing is the 'holes' in the back of the rear seats when viewed from the boot - apparently ventilation holes for the heated rear seats? - at the price they could have covered said holes with a grill

and the one touch locking works sometimes but not others - was told it was a poor connection and had been rectified, obviously not

Eleven

26,271 posts

221 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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swisstoni said:
I'm picking mine up this week; not feeling too optimistic after all the tales of woe. What would you say to look for on initial inspection?
Check whether it has Land Rover badges on it anywhere. If it does, don't accept it.

grand cherokee

2,432 posts

198 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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Eleven said:
Check whether it has Land Rover badges on it anywhere. If it does, don't accept it.
pmsl - very droll!

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

131 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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The lack of meaningful support from the manufacturer doesn't appear to have changed much in 40 years or so!

There must be a business opportunity to act as an intermediary between owners of new(ish) Range Rovers and JLR.

grand cherokee

2,432 posts

198 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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if you want to read a real horror story of a brand new RR have a look on the 'fullfat' forum and the US owner!

HarryW

15,150 posts

268 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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To me the RR is an aspirational vehicle, whilst earning 6 figures is one thing, paying 6 figures for a car is a step too far for me. It is slightly depressing to read that even the latest versions are having silly QA issues that have no place in a car of that value. I suppose the success of LR shows that perhaps marketing along with desirable styling and off road heritage/capability are their strongest strengths. I for one, even with the right amount of disposable money, would think twice about sinking £100k+ into one.

Eleven

26,271 posts

221 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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V8 Fettler said:
There must be a business opportunity to act as an intermediary between owners of new(ish) Range Rovers and JLR.
It's already a thriving business. The people who operate in the field are called "lawyers".


EdJ

1,284 posts

194 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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So is the consensus the L405 Range Rover is better or worse than the L322?

If I'd based my decision to buy a new L322 Range Rover back in 2008 on the horror stories I read then, I would never have bought one. As it happens, my L322 has been one of the most reliable cars I've ever had (I owned mainly German cars before).

I guess one aspect is that I bought my car towards the end of the model's life cycle, whereas I guess we're still early-ish in the life cycle of the L405?

NomduJour

18,973 posts

258 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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L405 definitely a better car, as you'd expect with over a decade between them.

Eleven

26,271 posts

221 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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EdJ said:
So is the consensus the L405 Range Rover is better or worse than the L322?

If I'd based my decision to buy a new L322 Range Rover back in 2008 on the horror stories I read then, I would never have bought one. As it happens, my L322 has been one of the most reliable cars I've ever had (I owned mainly German cars before).

I guess one aspect is that I bought my car towards the end of the model's life cycle, whereas I guess we're still early-ish in the life cycle of the L405?
I've had two L322s from new.

The first was a 2006. It was like a Wimpy new build house. Loads of faults over the first year then it was basically a good car. Notwithstanding the fact that the service indicator didn't work, which resulted in 22k miles before its first service. Land Rover knew this was a problem, admitted it was a problem, but because of the wording of the driver's handbook it didn't technically render the service history incomplete, so they would do nothing about it.

The second one I still have. Well, when I say "still have", I mean that I share it with the service manager at my local LR dealership. Sometimes he has it, sometimes I do. He's had it a month now, so it must be my turn soon.

Is the new Range Rover better? In terms of technology, it has to be. The flat cornering is a boon, but the trend towards big wheels buggers up the ride.


NomduJour

18,973 posts

258 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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Ride on 20" is better than a late L322 on 19".

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

131 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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Eleven said:
V8 Fettler said:
There must be a business opportunity to act as an intermediary between owners of new(ish) Range Rovers and JLR.
It's already a thriving business. The people who operate in the field are called "lawyers".
"Using a lawyer" and "resolving a problem quickly and efficiently" are two mutually exclusive concepts.

swisstoni

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16,844 posts

278 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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Just for balance, I have been reading up on Porsche recently and they have an abysmal recent record.
Certain s/h dealers simply won't touch some model years.

Eleven

26,271 posts

221 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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swisstoni said:
Just for balance, I have been reading up on Porsche recently and they have an abysmal recent record.
Certain s/h dealers simply won't touch some model years.
Porsche is by no means faultless, but LR is in a whole different league (trust me, I've had a lot of dealings with both). Furthermore, when things go wrong with a Porsche the dealership gives a stuff. They are rated on the degree to which they do. LR dealers not so much.

alock

4,224 posts

210 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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Speaking to an employee of JLR, he said they are the only company that have to send two entire engines to ZF for drive-train testing because a single engine doesn't last the entire test. All other major manufactures only send a single engine.

I've been unable to corroborate this so it might not be true but I have no reason to think this person would lie.

grand cherokee

2,432 posts

198 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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NomduJour said:
Ride on 20" is better than a late L322 on 19".
when I had my L322 I had 20" summer wheels/tyres and 19" winter wheels/tyres - ride was better on 19"

I bought the L405 with 20" wheels and upgraded to 21" Autobiography wheel/tyres as I got offered a set for £1150 with less than 20 miles

no noticeable difference in ride quality

grand cherokee

2,432 posts

198 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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I think the truth is that those who have owned previous Range Rovers accept that they are not perfect - BUT when they are right there is no better car in that class?

when you wait at a main dealer you discuss with other owners the faults they have experienced

yes, we are mad to own them!

and they still sell by the thousand so why should LR/Tata give a fk?

Edited by grand cherokee on Monday 30th March 13:04