Performance V8 4 ltr engine.

Performance V8 4 ltr engine.

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DonkeyApple

55,139 posts

169 months

Monday 16th November 2015
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Vixpy1 said:
Is there an off the shelf SC kit avail for the 3.9 in a classic? I don't really mind if the engine sts itself
It's a non serp engine isn't it?

A chap has built a kit for Tivs. Iain something.

V8GRF has all the details.

seeryj

28 posts

182 months

Monday 16th November 2015
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Its not a TVR engine.
This was a Dyno result when first built.
Did have it on a Dyno recently but was too light and powerful for the dyno to give a reading.
It kept climbing out of the rollers and also spinning up.
I need to take it to one that uses the direct hub drive.

I know that the TVRs are getting more than this.

DonkeyApple

55,139 posts

169 months

Monday 16th November 2015
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I don't think TVRs get anywhere near to be honest. Few will be over 300 bhp.

Sarge 4x4

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2,371 posts

205 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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Still chewing the fat but looking like Rover 4ltr the best direction, we are stuck with this size to stay inside the rules as someone stated.

As we are in a production class the Rover V8 is looking the right choice and around 300bhp and 300ft lb torque will work fine with the Quaife 6 speed sequential box.

This is for a brand new Defender 110 we have in build at present.

Thanks for your help as i have no experience with the Rover V8, someone mentioned "flat plane crank" or something like that, your thoughts please.

DonkeyApple

55,139 posts

169 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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I've not heard of a flat plane crank for an RV8 but it might exist.

I think you'll be spending an enormous sum to get the power to that sort of level you mention. A not inexpensive 5L build would be getting those numbers.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Friday 20th November 2015
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Sarge 4x4 said:
Still chewing the fat but looking like Rover 4ltr the best direction, we are stuck with this size to stay inside the rules as someone stated.

As we are in a production class the Rover V8 is looking the right choice and around 300bhp and 300ft lb torque will work fine with the Quaife 6 speed sequential box.

This is for a brand new Defender 110 we have in build at present.

Thanks for your help as i have no experience with the Rover V8, someone mentioned "flat plane crank" or something like that, your thoughts please.
I think you need to speak to some of the engine builders. A genuine 300hp and 300lb ft from a 4.0 litre, I reckon that might be a tall order. That's sort Works Team world rally type engines used in the 1980's... Can't see it being cheap.

DoubleByte

1,248 posts

266 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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My 4.2 does 315, but it did take a bit of work i guess. Main thing for me was upping the CR, the rest is all bolt on bits - carefully fitted!!!

C Lee Farquar

4,067 posts

216 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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seeryj said:
John Eales at JE Engineering is the best .

I race one of johns 5 litre Rover V8s.
Only 390bhp so not tuned to hell.
The engine is very reliable and gives massive torque.
Didn't he leave over 20 years ago?

cirks

2,470 posts

283 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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300bhp/ton said:
390hp from a Rover V8. Suspect a mortgage was involved hehe
Do you have a dyno for it? Not doubting, but that seems a very high amount for an RV8. And certainly when you view the rolling road results in the TVR forum, few of them really make BIG numbers, no matter what's been done to them, or who built them.
No reason to doubt John's stated output. Mine's a John Eales lump too but just a 'mere' 4.8 and that's 320bhp with medium heads - could have gone for more power when built but would have been even more money and less drivable on road. Mine was built for my spec of needing to be usable on road and high torque 330+ on track etc.

Sarge 4x4

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2,371 posts

205 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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What about the Merlin heads ?
Does anyone have any experience with flat plane engines ?

C Lee Farquar

4,067 posts

216 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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Sarge 4x4 said:
Does anyone have any experience with flat plane engines ?
Your navigator

Sarge 4x4

Original Poster:

2,371 posts

205 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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Mmmmmmmmmmm, that was a Lexus.

I need if poss some info on the Rover V8.

C Lee Farquar

4,067 posts

216 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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I'll take a wild guess a Rover would be similarly expensive to build and maintain.

Would be an interesting project though. I did look at this for the LS to try and reduce the capacity but it did look fairly ruinous and the probable need for balance shafts seemed more complicated than I wanted to deal with.

Clivey

5,110 posts

204 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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RicksAlfas said:
Never used them, but heard a lot about them and seem to be well respected on other forums:
http://rocketsledtuning.webs.com/aboutus.htm
I can vouch for them. - Stuart's a personal friend and has done quite a lot of work on my Disco 2 TD5. thumbup

DonkeyApple

55,139 posts

169 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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Clivey said:
I can vouch for them. - Stuart's a personal friend and has done quite a lot of work on my Disco 2 TD5. thumbup
Morning Clive. Spoke to Stuart last week, after seeing your post. That was a conversation that has opened a can of worms! biggrin

Clivey

5,110 posts

204 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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DonkeyApple said:
Morning Clive. Spoke to Stuart last week, after seeing your post. That was a conversation that has opened a can of worms! biggrin
thumbup I can only imagine!