Is RRS TDV6 slow etc

Is RRS TDV6 slow etc

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jakesmith

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9,461 posts

171 months

Thursday 18th August 2016
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camel_landy said:
If you want a sports car... Get a sports car!

The RRSport isn't about MPG, so if you're worrying about MPG maybe the RRS isn't the car for you.

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I have a 911 too but it's not so good for a week's holiday with a wife & 2 babies

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Thursday 18th August 2016
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Crumpet said:
It's not so much the 0-60 time that's the issue as the SDV6 really can shift surprisingly well for the weight of the car (0-40 is particularly quick). The problem, and I'm referring to the 8 speed gearbox in an SDV6 Disco, is that sometimes it just doesn't respond when you quickly put your foot down. I don't know if it's because it's trying to set off in second gear or if it's just turbo lag but it's genuinely something you need to be aware of when you're dealing with roundabouts. In my experience it's worst when rolling slowly forwards, from a standing start it isn't too bad. It's one of the very few downsides I've found with the car.
I have heard people say this. Still not sure it's really as big an issue as made out. I've driven TDV6 Disco3's and RRS's with the 2.7 and the 6 speed box. And while there is a trait here in a bit of lag/sluggishness, it was fairly easy to not notice at all, or drive around it and make it a non issue.

jakesmith

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Thursday 18th August 2016
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300bhp/ton said:
I have heard people say this. Still not sure it's really as big an issue as made out. I've driven TDV6 Disco3's and RRS's with the 2.7 and the 6 speed box. And while there is a trait here in a bit of lag/sluggishness, it was fairly easy to not notice at all, or drive around it and make it a non issue.
It's a well documented issue affecting the car and it's dangerous and annoying. If you haven't driven the car then you don't know what you're talking about

A.J.M

7,908 posts

186 months

Thursday 18th August 2016
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The 8 speed does have that lag issue.
A friend had a MY12 D4 8 speed for 4 years, it was always there, despite some trips back to the dealership for upgrades.

He would use the flappy paddles to change to 1st then set off.

The 6 speed doesn't have that issue. If you want it off the line quickly. Stick it in sand mode on the terrain response and floor it! wink

Crumpet

3,894 posts

180 months

Thursday 18th August 2016
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300bhp/ton said:
I have heard people say this. Still not sure it's really as big an issue as made out. I've driven TDV6 Disco3's and RRS's with the 2.7 and the 6 speed box. And while there is a trait here in a bit of lag/sluggishness, it was fairly easy to not notice at all, or drive around it and make it a non issue.
My wife doesn't notice and if you're going to wait for huge gaps in traffic then no, it's not a factor. But if you like to make decent progress and are used to cars that are quicker off the mark then it can catch you out. Trust me, it does!

colonel c

7,890 posts

239 months

Thursday 18th August 2016
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Absolutely no sluggish issues with my 2011 TDV6.

jakesmith

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9,461 posts

171 months

Friday 19th August 2016
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A.J.M said:
The 8 speed does have that lag issue.
A friend had a MY12 D4 8 speed for 4 years, it was always there, despite some trips back to the dealership for upgrades.

He would use the flappy paddles to change to 1st then set off.

The 6 speed doesn't have that issue. If you want it off the line quickly. Stick it in sand mode on the terrain response and floor it! wink
Soon as the Mrs is back from Monkey Music & Waitrose I'm off to try that out!

cayman-black

12,646 posts

216 months

Saturday 20th August 2016
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colonel c said:
Absolutely no sluggish issues with my 2011 TDV6.
Mine is perfect too. I thought i just had a good one. lol.

jakesmith

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171 months

Saturday 20th August 2016
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cayman-black said:
Mine is perfect too. I thought i just had a good one. lol.
The hesitation on pulling away that is being discussed is on the Evoque 2.2 auto

bogie

16,385 posts

272 months

Saturday 20th August 2016
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I avg 18-19mpg out of a V8 petrol, so paying £££ more to buy a higher mileage lower spec car to get 25mpg from a diesel when you only do 5-6K miles a years is not worth it. Thats about £400 a year difference. Fair enough if you are doing 20k miles a year out of your own pocket, you need a diesel.

So why not shop around, pick up a bargain petrol car because few people want them these days; enjoy a V8 before they are banned smile

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Saturday 20th August 2016
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jakesmith said:
It's a well documented issue affecting the car and it's dangerous and annoying. If you haven't driven the car then you don't know what you're talking about
Don't be so dramatic, what are you a 14 year old girl.

jakesmith

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Sunday 21st August 2016
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300bhp/ton said:
Don't be so dramatic, what are you a 14 year old girl.
You are the worst person on this entire forum

Phil.

4,764 posts

250 months

Sunday 21st August 2016
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A remapped FFRR TDV8 seems to be the answer given you are comfortable with remapping. I had a JE remapped 2007 TDV8 and it did around 30MPG on an A Road/Motorway commute (about 10% better MPG than standard). I also had a 4.4 TDV8 2011 JE remapped and that's as quick as the L405 4.4 SVD8.

The FFRR is easy to park even in a supermarket because it's easy to see all the corners unlike the RRS which falls away from view. It's virtually the same width as the RRS but much better packaged inside.

The FFRR is also a massive step up in terms of refinement from the Evoque, again based on the experience of owning one. The seats are 10x better than the RRS.

There is 800NM of torque with the JE remap - it just glides quickly down the road and the pick up from stationary is good wink

http://jemotorworks.co.uk/power-performance-range-...

cayman-black

12,646 posts

216 months

Sunday 21st August 2016
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jakesmith said:
The hesitation on pulling away that is being discussed is on the Evoque 2.2 auto
Really ? I didn't the Evoque 2.2 was a TDV6.

jakesmith

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171 months

Sunday 21st August 2016
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cayman-black said:
Really ? I didn't the Evoque 2.2 was a TDV6.
The TDV6 3.0 is being discussed in the context of whether it avoids the terrible pulling away delay / lag of the Evoque which everyone who has actually driven one agrees is pretty awful.
I'm trying to ascertain from people who have driven the 3.0, whether it still has this issue as it looks on paper to have similar power and gearbox which seem the obvious culprits. I don't want that in my next car as it is dangerous.

Good comment above on the 4.4 V8, it appears from reading some other threads that this is actually more efficient than the 3.0TDV6, and remapped wd be a good step up from the Evoque too, always nice to upgrade. Maybe this is the answer, they also look good value what with a 2012 being purchasable for under £30k or a 2010 for £26k-£27k. I think I'd favor as new as possible.

Crumpet

3,894 posts

180 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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jakesmith said:
The TDV6 3.0 is being discussed in the context of whether it avoids the terrible pulling away delay / lag of the Evoque which everyone who has actually driven one agrees is pretty awful.
I'm trying to ascertain from people who have driven the 3.0, whether it still has this issue as it looks on paper to have similar power and gearbox which seem the obvious culprits. I don't want that in my next car as it is dangerous.
The 3.0 TDV6 is fine with the six speed gearbox. It's the 8 speed SDV6 that has the issues.

jakesmith

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171 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Just been to look at a few and all the baby stuff goes in the FFRR much more easily than the Sport, plus the inside is nicer too so that's decided. Think I will sidestep the issue of power by going for the 4.4 TDV8. Some cool features to look for such as deployable side steps, adaptive cruise, electrically adjustable + heated steering wheel!

Phil.

4,764 posts

250 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Don't forget cooling seats and the big one, FBH (Fuel Burning Heater) that you can set to warm the RR for 20-30mins before you get in on a cold morning. All of mine have had a FBH wink