New Discovery 5

[wildcat45]

Was the D4 on a chassis? I thought that from the D3 Discos were monocoque. Happy to be proved wrong.

[stain]

D4 has a body on chassis

[bakerstreet]

Hence it weighs the best part of 2600Kg 😀

[wildcat45]

Oh right. Every day's a School
Day. Thanks.

[Roberts13]

bakerstreet said:

Olf said:

This well known bit about the new Defender taking the D4 platform - have you got some references or further info?

I've spoken to someone who has seen it and even driven it.

Also it makes sense. We know the Defender will run multiple body styles and to support that, it has to resort to using a traditional ladder chassis and the only one that they have to work with is the the D4 platform.

Its a perfect disguise for test mules too as they will all be Discovery 4s!

Can't wait for the launch of the new Defender. If they can get close to the lease deals of the Golf R, then I may take the plunge and have one on a two year lease.

Sorry, I have had to register to correct this.

Your 'mate' is massively poorly informed. The new Defender doesn't exist yet, it is still on computer screens only. It is also most definitely *not* built off an old chassis - esp seeing as that chassis is over 15 years old. Look at the way most modern companies are structuring their vehicle line ups & utilising common underbody platforms for different classes of vehicles. Golf/Tiguan, 5 series/7series etc etc...

edit: As for lease deals compared to a Golf R, you probably wont be too far off.

Edited by Roberts13 on Friday 27th January 10:40

[mikeh501]

A cheap lease like a golf. You are delusional lol.

[Murph7355]

bakerstreet said:

...
Also it makes sense. We know the Defender will run multiple body styles and to support that, it has to resort to using a traditional ladder chassis ...

No it doesn't.

Look at Astons, Lotus, Mazda, Fiat, Ford and numerous others...

[Andehh]

mikeh501 said:

A cheap lease like a golf. You are delusional lol.

To be fair to him, he mentioned a Golf R.

Golf R retails at £34k, and the new defender is touted to be mid-high £20ks? Doesn't sound unreasonable IMO.

[robm3]

One of the things I love about our old D3 is the turning circle.

Sadly the new car is almost as bad as our Defender (which is ridiculously bad).

Turning circles:
D3/4 - 11.4m
D5 - 12.3m!!

I suspect the new one will just be 'another car' you once had, traded in just prior to the 3 year lease/warranty expiry. Whereas the old D3/4 is the keeper...

[bakerstreet]

Roberts13 said:

Sorry, I have had to register to correct this.

Your 'mate' is massively poorly informed. The new Defender doesn't exist yet, it is still on computer screens only. It is also most definitely *not* built off an old chassis - esp seeing as that chassis is over 15 years old. Look at the way most modern companies are structuring their vehicle line ups & utilising common underbody platforms for different classes of vehicles. Golf/Tiguan, 5 series/7series etc etc...

edit: As for lease deals compared to a Golf R, you probably wont be too far off.

Edited by Roberts13 on Friday 27th January 10:40

He wasn't a mate. He worked at LR and on the factory site too. All those vehicles you list aren't commercial use vehicles. None are designed to pull or carry the same weights as the Defender will be asked to do.

I personally believed what the guy said. I have no reason to doubt him. He is closer to the action than I am.

I also stand by my original lease deal comment. It it comes in at £286-300pm with three months up front on 2yrs with limited mileage, I'm having one I admit that it might be a SWB with base spec, but that will do for me.

[akadk]

lol
dreamworld

[RobGT81]

bakerstreet said:

None are designed to pull or carry the same weights as the Defender will be asked to do.

The new defender won't be pulling anymore than the D5. It will come out in silly bright colours and be aimed at kids.

[bakerstreet]

RobGT81 said:

The new defender won't be pulling anymore than the D5. It will come out in silly bright colours and be aimed at kids.

That's correct. I don't think any of the current land rover range is aimed at kids. More for people who have kids and need to carry associated stuff

[Andehh]

Worth noting the Disco 5 & old defender have the same towing capacity... 3,500kg

[Jazzy Jag]

I spent Friday driving the new defender, off and on road, including the 2.0l Ingenium sequential twin turbo engine.

Bloody loved it!

The technology in the car is amazing.

[woody166]

cailean said:

What a rear end....

Yep, I'm seeing disturbing similarities to the Ssangyong Rodius.

[HarryW]

Is it in the show rooms yet, fancy a first hand look see at one....

[LaserTam]

A mate is looking at buying one - he had a call just today from his local dealer to say that they have received a production model as demonstrator, so suspect others will have one too.

[240Cup]

Just driven one - TD6 HSE Lux or HSE+ or something.

What a bit of kit! Drove beautifully, loads of gadgets and interior top quality. My pal who sells them said £65K though... ouch!

Back end looked better in the flesh, although car was black so maybe in another colour it wouldn't get away with it so well.

Much want. But £65K...!

[David87]

I had a good look around one at the local dealer at the weekend. It was really smart inside and the front looked great, but I found the rear, particularly from the side, a bit challenging aesthetically. It looked very slab-sided and yet with the third row of seats erected, there was virtually no boot space (was this the same with the D4?). The list price of the showroom example was also £70k.

I'm looking forward to seeing cars out on the road in various colours and specs - I think the 22" wheels will probably massively help with the visual side of things, if not the off-road ability! One really odd spec thing I've seen is that you can't have the Dynamic Design Pack and the Black Pack at the same time, but I'd want both.