L322 Owners - step forward...
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I have a 2006 4.4L Jaaaaag AJV8 na and it’s a great thing. I bought it on the assurance that it have been well maintained and it seems as though it has been. It has taken us around France and to the Outer Hebrides and back whilst fulfilling daily duties.
What to take? The MPG is laughable, the RFL is >£700 p/a and it’s a Greta baiting vehicle.
Oh, it’s also extremely capable, supremely comfortable and very enjoyable to drive.
What to take? The MPG is laughable, the RFL is >£700 p/a and it’s a Greta baiting vehicle.
Oh, it’s also extremely capable, supremely comfortable and very enjoyable to drive.
Deranged Rover said:
gotoPzero said:
I had a the BMW 4.4 and it was a great car but the gearbox was trash.
Had it replaced and then 2 years later that started to grumble.
Out of interest, did you find out why the gearboxes failed?Had it replaced and then 2 years later that started to grumble.
The grumbling in the gearbox on my 4.4 BMW V8-engined L322 turned out to be because the oil/water heat exchanger was one of the many things in the cooling system that failed and thus allowed coolant into the gearbox, eating away at its friction linings.
We have had a 2008 4.2 SC since 2017 - got it as second owner with 21,000 mies now up to 52,000miles. We get it serviced every year to change the engine oil and filters. Did the gearbox oil in 2019 as the car was 10 years old and the differentials/transfer box oil last year. Got some electrical gremlins in 2019/2020 which were rectified by a new battery. We needed some new lower suspension arms in 2021 due to age/wear. Just planning to get the car undersealed as there are spots of brown appearing and we keep driving through more puddles and salty water each year.
I use a local Landy specialist and we work to stay on top of age related changes and ignore the milage as it very low for the age and I do not do a huge amount each year. Talking to them, they see some horrors where a person buys a cheap multi-owner L322 to find out that several of the pervious owners have done little lo no maintenance - and where they have it has been basic old changes. This means that the new owner can be faced with several large bills to correct things.
Really love this car - getting into the big leather arm chairs after a day out is always a pleasure and it is great to be able to fit the family and stuff in there without needing to think about what we are taking. It also makes a great van for trips to Ikea (other stores are available) with the seats down.
I use a local Landy specialist and we work to stay on top of age related changes and ignore the milage as it very low for the age and I do not do a huge amount each year. Talking to them, they see some horrors where a person buys a cheap multi-owner L322 to find out that several of the pervious owners have done little lo no maintenance - and where they have it has been basic old changes. This means that the new owner can be faced with several large bills to correct things.
Really love this car - getting into the big leather arm chairs after a day out is always a pleasure and it is great to be able to fit the family and stuff in there without needing to think about what we are taking. It also makes a great van for trips to Ikea (other stores are available) with the seats down.
I have had my 11 plate vogue se for 7 years now. It's had lots of lower suspension arms, seems normal and a few other bits of suspension. I have had a compressor £700 ish, a belt snapped ripping through the lower hose, water everywhere. Currently in my local independent waiting for them to find ramp time to change the dead alternator.
Considering what a lovely place to travel it is I can forgive it almost everything. Does 26mpg with the 4.4 turbo diesel. A lovely power plant. Summoning up the bravery to buy a 405 at soon.
I think the run out L322s with the newer seats and digital dash are the sweet spot and mines been relatively reliable.
Considering what a lovely place to travel it is I can forgive it almost everything. Does 26mpg with the 4.4 turbo diesel. A lovely power plant. Summoning up the bravery to buy a 405 at soon.
I think the run out L322s with the newer seats and digital dash are the sweet spot and mines been relatively reliable.
2007 4.2sc, had it 10 years, put it on lpg as soon as I bought it at 60k miles now on 130k, no issues.
You do not need deep pockets ime, its had in its time with me, two new front suspension units (air bag failed on one) new water pump, new alternator, new abs sensor, new sc coolant pump, new front control arms, drop links tie rod ends, and thats it apart from tyres pads discs etc (consumables)
Great car and will probably keep it till something kills it....
Eta, forgot about the steering lock issue, unable to turn ignition key, drilled the hole in the casing and added silicone spray, worked for a couple of years, finally gave up completely a couple of years ago, failed in the locked position luckily at home, by passed it completely with a couple of snips and a wire to a supply at the drivers footwell light, top bodge but saves price of an upper steering column and I needed to use the car....
You do not need deep pockets ime, its had in its time with me, two new front suspension units (air bag failed on one) new water pump, new alternator, new abs sensor, new sc coolant pump, new front control arms, drop links tie rod ends, and thats it apart from tyres pads discs etc (consumables)
Great car and will probably keep it till something kills it....
Eta, forgot about the steering lock issue, unable to turn ignition key, drilled the hole in the casing and added silicone spray, worked for a couple of years, finally gave up completely a couple of years ago, failed in the locked position luckily at home, by passed it completely with a couple of snips and a wire to a supply at the drivers footwell light, top bodge but saves price of an upper steering column and I needed to use the car....
Edited by dingg on Sunday 27th August 11:19
2010 5.0SC 70k AB a rare find with vision pack and factory steps.
Bought at top price on the condition everything worked on collection.
New battery, new discs n pads, new recliner motor, 2 new seat heaters, washer jet pipe. About £2.5k that lot.
No issues in the 8 months I’ve had it but I ran it on 95octane which the injectors didn’t like so it’s V Power all the way.
Bought at top price on the condition everything worked on collection.
New battery, new discs n pads, new recliner motor, 2 new seat heaters, washer jet pipe. About £2.5k that lot.
No issues in the 8 months I’ve had it but I ran it on 95octane which the injectors didn’t like so it’s V Power all the way.
Picked mine up at the weekend. It isn't perfect, but was very well priced for a relatively low milage Autobiography. It's getting a new battery, starter motor (well known click) and a towbar. It's also getting a new windscreen as a small stone chipped it on the top edge bringing it home and it has developed into a crack already.
The extended styling and Overfinch wheels aren't to everyone's taste but I don't mind them. The wheels need a refurb, but that can wait until the spring. It drives really nicely.
The extended styling and Overfinch wheels aren't to everyone's taste but I don't mind them. The wheels need a refurb, but that can wait until the spring. It drives really nicely.
Just done a full service on mine last night (oil, fuel filter, air, filters, cabin filter) took just over an hour and cost £224 in parts.
Interestingly my motor factors charged me £103 + vat for aftermarket "blueprint" brand filter, whereas even the genuine filter was only £70 which they also had on the shelf.
Changing the nearside airfilter was a bit pointless as it was like new - as that filter only gets used on full boost, which is rare on mine,
Interestingly my motor factors charged me £103 + vat for aftermarket "blueprint" brand filter, whereas even the genuine filter was only £70 which they also had on the shelf.
Changing the nearside airfilter was a bit pointless as it was like new - as that filter only gets used on full boost, which is rare on mine,
NomduJour said:
LandieMark said:
It's getting a new battery, starter motor (well known click)
You can fix/prevent the starter click by running an additional solenoid trigger wire. https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/post632398.html#63...
LandieMark said:
I had seen this as well. My understanding is that the existing starter will still eventually fail due to the burnt solenoid contacts - it is something that I will look into in more detail though.
yes i guess so because there's not enough current to pull the contacts closed tightly - so changing the starter motor appears to fix it, but essentially you just have some fresh contacts to burn through slowly.In my case, the new starter made no difference - only the mod achieved the long term fix.
Surprisingly the fault manifested itself quite quickly (couple of weeks), rather than slowly getting worse over a longer period.
Recently bought my 3rd l322, a 2007 4.2sc.
I got it from a good friend of mine for buttons, I actually found this car for him around 6 years ago when I had my last l322 so I know it was a half decent specimen.
Apart from a few minor cosmetic/electrical issues, it's not too bad at all,wearing it's 129k very well indeed.
I forgot how utterly majestic the ride is on these.
I got it from a good friend of mine for buttons, I actually found this car for him around 6 years ago when I had my last l322 so I know it was a half decent specimen.
Apart from a few minor cosmetic/electrical issues, it's not too bad at all,wearing it's 129k very well indeed.
I forgot how utterly majestic the ride is on these.
I picked up a non-runner '05 4.4 in September, mainly because it was green without window tints and is an early car, and therefore mechanically familiar to me as a serial BMW DIY owner.
It is a low owner and low mileage car and I am doing the work myself in less than ideal outside conditions, when time allows.
It's remains a non-runner and the MOT runs our next week, but I bought it as a refurb project and occasional load lugger.
The summary of my ownership to date goes like this.......
Install new battery
Guess that the coolant issue I bought it with is a failed expansion tank, so order a new genuine one, and cap.
Drain and refill coolant, drive locally to collect some furniture, make it back to the house where the expansion tank blows it's lid again.
I laugh cried.
Ponder my life choices whilst installing a complete replacement interior LED kit. Find a pair of RayBans in the sunglass holder.
Notice the passenger wing mirror glass is goosed, and decide to sort that out later.
Order the following:
Water pump
Thermostat
Various O-rings and gaskets
Viscous coupling
Heater resistor hedgehog
Thoroughly clean the interior to make me feel better and it comes up an absolute treat. Find a 2nd pair of (slightly broken) RayBans in the glove-box.
Begin stripping engine ancillaries down to tackle the jobs, and note that more needs to be ordered:
Fan clutch wrench (because or course the selection I bought for the 4.2 SC I used to own, do not fit)
2 x belts
Intake pipe seals and MAF-to-airbox seal.
Oil, oil filter
Rocker cover gaskets and bolt/nut seals
RTV
Rad mounting pins
Radiator
Go back to the engine to get at the rocker covers. Start with the passenger side and it comes off easily. Daylight runs out and go in.
Order replacement wing mirror.
Come back to it another day to install new gasket. OH MY f
k. What a bk of a job.
Get it done, finally. The swear jar is overflowing. It's dark now but I undo 1 bolt on the driver side gasket cover to make sure I come back and do it, because I don't really want to.
Hopefully over this weekend all of those bits will be done, just in time to fail it's MOT on more than 1 item, probably.
It's green, I adore the thing, and can't wait to actually use it.
It is a low owner and low mileage car and I am doing the work myself in less than ideal outside conditions, when time allows.
It's remains a non-runner and the MOT runs our next week, but I bought it as a refurb project and occasional load lugger.
The summary of my ownership to date goes like this.......
Install new battery
Guess that the coolant issue I bought it with is a failed expansion tank, so order a new genuine one, and cap.
Drain and refill coolant, drive locally to collect some furniture, make it back to the house where the expansion tank blows it's lid again.
I laugh cried.
Ponder my life choices whilst installing a complete replacement interior LED kit. Find a pair of RayBans in the sunglass holder.
Notice the passenger wing mirror glass is goosed, and decide to sort that out later.
Order the following:
Water pump
Thermostat
Various O-rings and gaskets
Viscous coupling
Heater resistor hedgehog
Thoroughly clean the interior to make me feel better and it comes up an absolute treat. Find a 2nd pair of (slightly broken) RayBans in the glove-box.
Begin stripping engine ancillaries down to tackle the jobs, and note that more needs to be ordered:
Fan clutch wrench (because or course the selection I bought for the 4.2 SC I used to own, do not fit)
2 x belts
Intake pipe seals and MAF-to-airbox seal.
Oil, oil filter
Rocker cover gaskets and bolt/nut seals
RTV
Rad mounting pins
Radiator
Go back to the engine to get at the rocker covers. Start with the passenger side and it comes off easily. Daylight runs out and go in.
Order replacement wing mirror.
Come back to it another day to install new gasket. OH MY f
k. What a bk of a job.Get it done, finally. The swear jar is overflowing. It's dark now but I undo 1 bolt on the driver side gasket cover to make sure I come back and do it, because I don't really want to.
Hopefully over this weekend all of those bits will be done, just in time to fail it's MOT on more than 1 item, probably.
It's green, I adore the thing, and can't wait to actually use it.
Edited by Blueprint on Friday 8th December 18:45
So….
Not many mentions for the Td6’s.
Are the engines as reliable as some would have you believe, even if they are arguably too underpowered for the car?
Do the Td6’s have the 5 speed GM gearbox? Could it be swapped out for a different more reliable box very easily?
Never owned a LR but these early L322 Td6 do seem appealing, even if most seem to be quite rusty now, but then again most early-mid run L322’s are probably starting to turn by now, not just the Td6.
The fact that I’ve seen plenty of BMW’s with the same engine on big mileage gives me hope, the story of the expensive turbos and other faults with the later V8’s and the restricted access around the engines steers me to the Td6 over the others.
(Yes I know the BMW 30d’s are in fact BMW’s and not LR ‘s and therefore are likely to be inherently more reliable for that reason alone, but hear me out
)
Go…!
Not many mentions for the Td6’s.
Are the engines as reliable as some would have you believe, even if they are arguably too underpowered for the car?
Do the Td6’s have the 5 speed GM gearbox? Could it be swapped out for a different more reliable box very easily?
Never owned a LR but these early L322 Td6 do seem appealing, even if most seem to be quite rusty now, but then again most early-mid run L322’s are probably starting to turn by now, not just the Td6.
The fact that I’ve seen plenty of BMW’s with the same engine on big mileage gives me hope, the story of the expensive turbos and other faults with the later V8’s and the restricted access around the engines steers me to the Td6 over the others.
(Yes I know the BMW 30d’s are in fact BMW’s and not LR ‘s and therefore are likely to be inherently more reliable for that reason alone, but hear me out
)Go…!
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