Wrangler or Defender
Discussion
Bill said:
You started it 
I haven't looked into it recently but the Tunisian Libyan border was a piece of piss 5 years ago. I hope things haven't changed as the place seemed to be opening up a bit.
I haven't looked into it recently but the Tunisian Libyan border was a piece of piss 5 years ago. I hope things haven't changed as the place seemed to be opening up a bit.
Although, I've just checked on Chris Scott's forum and it seems to be down to only a few hours now! Can you get around without a guide? I'm just a bit bitter about african borders after I attempted the infamous Mauritania-Senegal border @ Rosso a few years ago (twice in two hours)!
300bhp/ton said:
viperboy said:
Sorry but I really hate idiotic posts like this. All it proves is the poster is a fool and evidently and blatantly doesn't understand tyres and driver have vastly more affect on a vehicles off road ability.
Harry Flashman said:
I am after a cheapish 4x4 toy for both winter and getting into some light offroading. I thought about buying an early current series Rangie, but decided that £10k was too much to spend on something that will be hacked around and neglected (it will never, for example, be cleaned).
I love Defenders - but they are pricey for what they are: but then I guess condition and spec are the clinchers with these vehicles. Some sort of 300Tdi hybrid would be the thing, for anything up to £6k.
Which could also buy me a Wrangler 4.0 Sahara or similar from the early 2000s. Now I know the Jeep is a pratty good offroader, but not in the same league as a sorted Defender. However, and this is the clincher, I suspect that it will be rather a lot more pleasant in normal winter driving than a Defender, especially on the motorway.And it may actually have a heater that works.
Undoubtedly, the Landie is cooler. But is it as good an all-rounder?
And no suggestions for Pajeros/Troopers etc. It's pretty much down to these two: I wanted something a bit iconic, rather than an excellent but bland Jap machine. Those old Land Cruiser Jeeps (as used by Hammond in the Top Gear Bolivia thing) may have been an option but they are like hens' teeth, and seem to be getting on a bit.
Similarly, I think some sort of early Range Rover based offroad special won't do the road driving thing well enough.
Any insights/experiences appreciated!
I love both Defenders and Wranglers (Especially the Rubicon).I love Defenders - but they are pricey for what they are: but then I guess condition and spec are the clinchers with these vehicles. Some sort of 300Tdi hybrid would be the thing, for anything up to £6k.
Which could also buy me a Wrangler 4.0 Sahara or similar from the early 2000s. Now I know the Jeep is a pratty good offroader, but not in the same league as a sorted Defender. However, and this is the clincher, I suspect that it will be rather a lot more pleasant in normal winter driving than a Defender, especially on the motorway.And it may actually have a heater that works.
Undoubtedly, the Landie is cooler. But is it as good an all-rounder?
And no suggestions for Pajeros/Troopers etc. It's pretty much down to these two: I wanted something a bit iconic, rather than an excellent but bland Jap machine. Those old Land Cruiser Jeeps (as used by Hammond in the Top Gear Bolivia thing) may have been an option but they are like hens' teeth, and seem to be getting on a bit.
Similarly, I think some sort of early Range Rover based offroad special won't do the road driving thing well enough.
Any insights/experiences appreciated!
Edited by Harry Flashman on Monday 4th October 14:39
Everyone saying the Wrangler is gay probably cries and dies a bit inside every week when their Defender breaks down...
If I could only have one and it had to be a main runner... it'd have to be the wrangler.
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