Risk free matched betting using bookie offers
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My home PC died so back on the slooooow lappy, too slow for trading so I've not done any lately. Making much more from my time MBing anyway.
Couldn't help notice that at half time in Scotland, 19 games, a grand total of TWO goals. Backing nil-nil pre KO at around 11, laying at HT around 4, would have been nicely profitable.
ETA Sorry, that's total b
ks. Flashscores on droid phone not updating 
Couldn't help notice that at half time in Scotland, 19 games, a grand total of TWO goals. Backing nil-nil pre KO at around 11, laying at HT around 4, would have been nicely profitable.
ETA Sorry, that's total b
ks. Flashscores on droid phone not updating Edited by richardxjr on Saturday 18th February 16:26
richardxjr said:
The 'hanging about' bonus is widely talked about on the 770 mse thread. They're also talking about the £10 mobile, but that's on 770's homepage too.
That can't be it then, look at post 3032 on the 770 thread, thats what I'm talking about.I feel your pain with the 770 WR, I have that T-Shirt........
Well that was a fairly fruitful weekend 
Just got the Asians to do now (10Bet, 12Bet AllYouBet etc) before picking through the more obscure books. I don't really want to tie up liquidity in their difficult witdrawal processes before Cheltenham.
Has anyone here got MB experience of Cheltenham week, what to expect, how to prepare, how much it is possible to earn?
I'm lucky enough not to have been limited or gubbed from anywhere yet so I'm hoping I can make a few quid that week.
Just got the Asians to do now (10Bet, 12Bet AllYouBet etc) before picking through the more obscure books. I don't really want to tie up liquidity in their difficult witdrawal processes before Cheltenham.
Has anyone here got MB experience of Cheltenham week, what to expect, how to prepare, how much it is possible to earn?
I'm lucky enough not to have been limited or gubbed from anywhere yet so I'm hoping I can make a few quid that week.
Careful with 10bet.
Looking forward to my first Chelters. I expect reloads and enhanced odds from bookies on their own sponsored races. Phone and mobile offers too. The markets will be rammed so lots of arb opportunities. I'm actually going to sign up for oddsmonkey premium for March and start 'work' at 7am each day that week.
I've picked up a couple of good-odds pre Chelts accumulators. One from Fred at 30/1, presently 24 to lay in the antepost markets. Another from Boyles (as well as one of their weekend wonders from Jan which is a Chelt horse), 24/1 presently 18/1 to lay.
These are not risk free though. Being antepost if the horse/s don't run your stake is lost. And being accumulators you can't lay until race day (lay one by one the usual accumulator way)
Boyles looks like they are doing one every day pre Chelts. If the present lay prices add to less than 75% of the offer price it should be nicely profitable come race day/s itself.
Given enough float it's possible to make £500-1000 this week from offers & opportunities.
Looking forward to my first Chelters. I expect reloads and enhanced odds from bookies on their own sponsored races. Phone and mobile offers too. The markets will be rammed so lots of arb opportunities. I'm actually going to sign up for oddsmonkey premium for March and start 'work' at 7am each day that week.
I've picked up a couple of good-odds pre Chelts accumulators. One from Fred at 30/1, presently 24 to lay in the antepost markets. Another from Boyles (as well as one of their weekend wonders from Jan which is a Chelt horse), 24/1 presently 18/1 to lay.
These are not risk free though. Being antepost if the horse/s don't run your stake is lost. And being accumulators you can't lay until race day (lay one by one the usual accumulator way)
Boyles looks like they are doing one every day pre Chelts. If the present lay prices add to less than 75% of the offer price it should be nicely profitable come race day/s itself.
Given enough float it's possible to make £500-1000 this week from offers & opportunities.
Might be worth doing 365 actually in Chelts week Dan? I'm miffed at getting limited there ... better chance of being under the radar doing the subs during the busiest nags week of the year imo.
Unlimited and having done the sub and mobile, being able to do Channel4/1 for a while should be most rewarding...
Unlimited and having done the sub and mobile, being able to do Channel4/1 for a while should be most rewarding...
Good point that actually Rich, I might think about that - my only disadvantage is I have to do all my betting either the night before or on a mobile during the day or after 16:00 as I can't access any gambling sites from work.
Everyone noticed the debate over on MSE about the closing down of the board?
Everyone noticed the debate over on MSE about the closing down of the board?
Dan_1981 said:
Everyone noticed the debate over on MSE about the closing down of the board?
Yep. Perhaps they can all move over here 
ML's got a bit of a God complex imo. Little does he realise that many peoples' perception of MSE is that it is mainly populated by the feckless trying to wriggle out of paying loans or credit card debt.
They've certainly got more than their fair share of idiots it would seem.
Laddies FGS refund ... refund if player X scores anytime. The strategy was back NGS (no goal scorer), lay 0-0, lay player X to score anytime.
Worked fine until Lads starting slashing the odds on NGS. You use WhatIf2 spreadsheet, need a close NGS-0-0 match and low player X odds to be profitable. Which sadly it isn't really anymore.
Same with Vic's refund if red card - although his CS odds are good, he only chooses games where the sending off? lay market odds are too high to be profitable. Spanish games were highly profitable, with nice low odds 2-3 on a sending off.
Run a load through WhatIf2 to get familiar with what would and wouldn't work though. That spreadsheet will show a few % profit on 3 out of 4 outcomes, and a bigger profit on the 4th outcome.
If you'd like a copy of WhatIf2 let me know and I'll send a copy over in the morning
Worked fine until Lads starting slashing the odds on NGS. You use WhatIf2 spreadsheet, need a close NGS-0-0 match and low player X odds to be profitable. Which sadly it isn't really anymore.
Same with Vic's refund if red card - although his CS odds are good, he only chooses games where the sending off? lay market odds are too high to be profitable. Spanish games were highly profitable, with nice low odds 2-3 on a sending off.
Run a load through WhatIf2 to get familiar with what would and wouldn't work though. That spreadsheet will show a few % profit on 3 out of 4 outcomes, and a bigger profit on the 4th outcome.
If you'd like a copy of WhatIf2 let me know and I'll send a copy over in the morning
Thanks Ricardo. I've got a copy of what if 2 but getting my head around what goes where was confusing me. The MSE thread has managed to confuse me more!
I think with your explanation I am cool with the theory now, looks like I may have missed the boat though......
Is it not just worth backing and laying for as small a loss as possible for the max back amount and see if the refund comes in? Not locking in a profit I know but the risk could be pennies. That said, I've not checked the prices to see what matches are available.......
I think with your explanation I am cool with the theory now, looks like I may have missed the boat though......
Is it not just worth backing and laying for as small a loss as possible for the max back amount and see if the refund comes in? Not locking in a profit I know but the risk could be pennies. That said, I've not checked the prices to see what matches are available.......
Edited by Jonnas on Monday 20th February 23:11
Sure, play around with some matches and see what comes up. I've done a couple but now there's not enough money:time in them imo.
Outside the mse shackles, we can discuss slightly less risk free strategies here (as we acknowledge on our own heads be it
) And there are out and out gambling threads in Finance should one want to experiment in that direction.
There are still plenty of risk free opportunities both SUB and reloads, as we've seen recently.
I think mse GIOL will be gone before Chelts. TGT has closed itself to new members. So when the end comes could we all gather and post offers here please?
There is a massive upside should GIOL fail, in that bookies will be less inundated when they issue an offer, so more inclined to do more offers to keep the "punters" throwing money to them instead of the next bookie
Outside the mse shackles, we can discuss slightly less risk free strategies here (as we acknowledge on our own heads be it
) And there are out and out gambling threads in Finance should one want to experiment in that direction.There are still plenty of risk free opportunities both SUB and reloads, as we've seen recently.
I think mse GIOL will be gone before Chelts. TGT has closed itself to new members. So when the end comes could we all gather and post offers here please?
There is a massive upside should GIOL fail, in that bookies will be less inundated when they issue an offer, so more inclined to do more offers to keep the "punters" throwing money to them instead of the next bookie
Crumbs, you really reckon it'll go? Finding good offers on my own would take more time than I think I have! Mind you, like you rightly say, there may be an upside!
I have been doing a bit of reading about Fairbot (I'm sure other BF trading software is available) lately which looks interesting although again may take more time than I have.
I like a little bit of risk, makes it more interesting.........
I have been doing a bit of reading about Fairbot (I'm sure other BF trading software is available) lately which looks interesting although again may take more time than I have.
I like a little bit of risk, makes it more interesting.........
Yep, the damage is already done and the old hands have taken the hint and resurrected what used to be a decent place:
http://www.rpoints.com/forum/f21/
Freed from mse, advantage play and +EV is talked about too, so tread carefully
I just hope mse leaves it's forum available to view as there's years of good research there.
http://www.rpoints.com/forum/f21/
Freed from mse, advantage play and +EV is talked about too, so tread carefully
I just hope mse leaves it's forum available to view as there's years of good research there.
richardxjr said:
My home PC died so back on the slooooow lappy, too slow for trading so I've not done any lately. Making much more from my time MBing anyway.
Hey Rich That is the reason i have backed out of this game for the last few months, my internet is so dodgy here that even MB'ing gave me a few hairy moments. My connection was going up and down like a w
es drawers, ussually right at the worst time possible. Plus I started to get a bit too sloppy.I have left £1k in my betfair account and cleared the rest of the accounts out so i know where i am when and if i get back into it again.
I might be popping back to join in the fun in a few weeks
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