Risk free matched betting using bookie offers

[Dan_1981]

Yup I have some combined liabilities. Which helps.

I've still not done bet365 - maybe i'll start it tomorrow.

Darlan at increased odds from 08:30 on William Hill tomorrow morning. 8's

Currently layable at 7.2 - that was much lower earlier as well!

[Sargeant Orange]

Thanks for the heads up on Corbettsports Rich. I was scouring my little black book and wondering why the hell I don't have an account there - it turns out they are linked to BGbet which I signed up to many moons ago so didn't chance Corbett. However the OH has neither so it goes on my list for tomorrow/Wednesday.

I've been reading the MSE thread on the betfair mobile offer and i'm not that comfortable with it to be honest (although i've got my head around it). I got burnt by a betfair offer in the past, nothing major but they said they had no record of me opting into a promotion when I had done. Conveniently their opt in pages do not usually show your username, so even though I had a screenshot it proved nothing. The same applies to this one.

So I think i'll go in with a medium risk (to me) and aim for a 30% bonus of around £100, assuming 2x£50 losses on 2 of the 3 races. Watch out for rule 4 deductions folks!


ETA: Don't miss the Bet365 offer on Chelsea/Napoli on Wednesday - an easy £35 minimum: hxxp://www.bet365.com/extra/extra.aspx?ContentPath=Promotions%2cSoccer%2cChampsLeagueFreeBet

Edited by Sargeant Orange on Tuesday 13th March 00:15

[croyde]

Thanks for the heads up Sarge.

Just how should I play this on Weds to make sure that I have covered myself.

Should I play the pre-match as a qualifier and the in-play as a SR bet?

Cheers.

[Sargeant Orange]

croyde said:

Thanks for the heads up Sarge.

Just how should I play this on Weds to make sure that I have covered myself.

Should I play the pre-match as a qualifier and the in-play as a SR bet?

Cheers.

Place £50 pre kick off for as small a loss as possible (can't see any minimum odds but I usually do over 2.0 to cover myself). Then place another £50 in running as a SNR

For example my bets the last time this was run (Liverpool v Spurs) were:

Qualifier: Back Liverpool £50 @ 2.05, lay at Smarkets @ 2.06
In running SNR: Back Spurs £50 @ 5, lay at Smarkets @ 5

Gave me £38 profit at 2% commission

Usually best to wait until Half time to place the in running bet as theres less risk of variation in odds. Also make sure you don't have an account deposit limit of £50 for a day or something silly which could mess you up (I speak from experience!)

[andrewrob]

The day is here!
I want to do the apollobet and betvictor offers
However I cant find for sure which one is the supreme novice hurdles on either site.
On betvictor I think I have it but I'm not sure, its down as "Supreme Novices' - 1/4 1,2,3,4" is that it?
I've found it on betfair but thats showing as suspended at the moment so I'm assuming it will open up in a bit?


ETA Think I've found it now. Got todays market for that race on BF and its the 13:30 at appollo.

Edited by andrewrob on Tuesday 13th March 09:27

[richardxjr]

Correct

Here's a quick run down of my first day offers:

Apollo 60 for 30 (daily)
32Red 25 for 25 (or 50 if horse wins)
Coral mobile 5 for 5 (daily)
PP mobile 20 for 20
Vic 20 for 20
Lads 5
PP £100 refund if Sprint Sacre wins
Betfair mobile 25x3 for +30% on profit

I also had a couple of snrs to place from pre-Chelt qualis.

Edited by richardxjr on Tuesday 13th March 09:47

[andrewrob]

richardxjr said:

Correct

Here's a quick run down of my first day offers:

Apollo 60 for 30 (daily)
32Red 25 for 25 (or 50 if horse wins)
Coral mobile 5 for 5 (daily)
PP mobile 20 for 20
Vic 20 for 20
Lads 5
Betfair mobile 25x3 for +30% on profit

I also had a couple of snrs to place from pre-Chelt qualis.

Didn't know about the 32Red one, thanks for that. My main problem is liquidity so I think I'll stick to victor and red today and see where I go from there.

[richardxjr]

I've got all that lot (apart from the apollo) on different horses in the 1.30

Combined BF liability really helps out here. Each new horse you lay, your BF balance goes UP.

Only one horse can win of course

[croyde]

Hello folks, all the best for Cheltenham.

Any sure things for my £50 freebet before I use it on the footie

Today's question. If I want to lay a bet on Betfair but on the odds in the pink box that I am looking at there is only £48, what should I consider?

Cheers.

[richardxjr]

croyde said:

Today's question. If I want to lay a bet on Betfair but on the odds in the pink box that I am looking at there is only £48, what should I consider?

Cheers.

There's not enough liquidity at that price, so the balance will go unmatched. Either to be matched when someone wants to back at that price, or not, in which case you'd need to re-match the balance at the next available odds.

You're also running a risk that by the time you sort your bet out, that £48 has gone.

So, at this stage in your MBing, I'd either wait for more liquidity or choose an alternative match with plenty of liquidity.

[croyde]

Thanks again Richard.

[richardxjr]

No problem

I'd avoid that 365 football inplay offer Croyde, assuming you haven't done their fantastic sub yet.

You'd miss out on £200!
THE best book out there for us lot, until you get limited that is.

[croyde]

Cheers!

So how risky is it to match on a horse race.

ie The Package 14.40 Cheltenham 7.0 at Coral, lay at Betfair 7.2 with £3200+ in the pink box.

Should get £39.86 using my £50 freebet.

Or should I stick to footie?

[richardxjr]

Do it


A lot are scared of non runners etc, but this only affects your horse if it wins, and even then what the bookie and BF do with non runners generally equalise anyway.

Just don't go in within half an hour (or an hour @ Chelts) of the start of race, for now.

No.1 Rule with horses: DO NOT get muddled up and chose the TO BE PLACED market at Betfair, thinking you've stumbled across a massive arb!!

Edited by richardxjr on Tuesday 13th March 11:39

[croyde]

Betfair telling me that my bet can't be fully matched but have already backed.

£2969 in the pink box.

Cancel, keep or take SP?

[Dan_1981]

richardxjr said:

Do it

No.1 Rule with horses: DO NOT get muddled up and chose the TO BE PLACED market at Betfair, thinking you've stumbled across a massive arb!!

Edited by richardxjr on Tuesday 13th March 11:39

[croyde]

Ah now matched.

[andrewrob]

croyde said:

Ah now matched.

That happens when the odds have shifted whilst putting your lay through. If you use the ultimatcher sheet it tells you how much you need to lay if the odds have now shifted and you've only got some of matched at say 8 and now its at 8.2. Very handy, and will happen to you at some point betting on any sport so worth knowing now!

[croyde]

Thanks again.

[richardxjr]

If it happens again, leave it a few mins, will usually get matched pretty quickly.

As an exercise, Refresh the prices box (not the whole page) every second or two and see how much money is moving about, and how fast!


Ultimatcher3 is indeed highly recommended for all things matched betting.