Risk free matched betting using bookie offers
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croyde said:
Sargeant Orange said:
Croyde I'd send them a polite e-mail asking if they will still give you the freebie if you place another bet over 2.0. Wouldn't be surprised if they said yes
Was thinking of doing that but thought it might look obvious .....Look out for enhanced odds Dan. They'll all be fighting for Gold Cup business.
Especially WH. Mobile to 50 refund if 2nd. Every horse, Every race @ Chelts. So arb/narb the favourites. They had enhanced Long Run and Kauto Star this morning (might still be there), arbs, refund if 2nd, can back both If it wins, they pay on Best Odds Gteed too. (eg Big Bucks EP 1.57 SP 1.83)
If a narb, I underlay for nil loss on win, small loss on lose. Can't guarantee a 2nd place, but it's fun for buttons.
Lads best prices 12-1pm, same with Fred if you've opted in for enhancements.
Lads are also doing refund if 2nd, to 25, on the 1330.
Especially WH. Mobile to 50 refund if 2nd. Every horse, Every race @ Chelts. So arb/narb the favourites. They had enhanced Long Run and Kauto Star this morning (might still be there), arbs, refund if 2nd, can back both If it wins, they pay on Best Odds Gteed too. (eg Big Bucks EP 1.57 SP 1.83)
If a narb, I underlay for nil loss on win, small loss on lose. Can't guarantee a 2nd place, but it's fun for buttons.
Lads best prices 12-1pm, same with Fred if you've opted in for enhancements.
Lads are also doing refund if 2nd, to 25, on the 1330.
Edited by richardxjr on Friday 16th March 10:35
Welcome Dave
a) you'll pick up on the abbreviations. WR = wagering requirement, for instance, and arb = arbitrage, a back price higher than lay price for a small profit on your qualifying bet.
b) all the examples are within the mse intro guides. But, usually there is no WR for an SNR (stake not returned) freebet. WR's are usually found with SR (stake returned) account credits. Where a WR is required, these extra bets you need to do to release your bonus are just like qualifier bets.
Avoid these deals until you've done at least 10 normal matched SNR freebet offers though.
c)
Do Not Bet on Latvian Tiddlywinks. High profile football matches, UK/Euro, then progress to the horses when you've read up on them.
Check and double check everything. Post your calculations here or on mse if unsure. DO NOT RUSH.
Ensure you have EXACTLY the same market at bookies and BF.
Ensure PLENTY of liquidity in your lay price @ betfair.
Ensure you are betting WELL in advance of the start.
Markets side by side on sep windows certainly the safest. But you'll soon be able to quickly calculate, back and lay on a smartphone just before the train goes into a tunnel
Edited by richardxjr on Friday 16th March 13:00
croyde said:
Found that rare thing where the lay was actually lower than the back, on Automatcher. For a 200 back with the lay as specified by the spreadsheet, I was showing a 38 profit but once I went on to the bookie site to find the team, it's search would not find it and suggested I get a price by ringing direct.
Any thoughts, it was a Mexican football game quoted by Automatcher as being on Paddy Power.
Dunno. But to arb mexican football / latvian tiddlywinks with Paddy is asking for a gubbing. That's a bookie you want to hold on to Any thoughts, it was a Mexican football game quoted by Automatcher as being on Paddy Power.
croyde said:
Grandad's Boy in the 16.40, 10 e/w at 17.0.
THIS IS NOT A TIP BTW!
Good luck.
Not a tip either, but for a a cheeky e/w? I backed 20 Synchronicity in the Gold Cup on Boyles enhanced offer a few weeks ago at 21.00THIS IS NOT A TIP BTW!
Good luck.
I happily layed it off last night at 16.00
It's now 10.5!
Edited by richardxjr on Friday 16th March 13:01
Some new blood I see over the weekend
Don't forget to get referred to Betfair. Decent referrers will share their payment with you
I'm going to (again) recommend downloading Ultimatcher3, with the instructions PDF. It's invaluable for this imo, you know where all your money is and can log bookie password details too. It looks intimidating, but isn't really.
Regulars should be due a 770 reload any day now.
wrt Vic gubbings, proves it must be random! All I do there is refund if offers, plenty of them, and touch wood my accounts alright.
So far, 5 months and 30-odd books in, I'm limited at 365, sportingbet and Sky.
Don't forget to get referred to Betfair. Decent referrers will share their payment with you
I'm going to (again) recommend downloading Ultimatcher3, with the instructions PDF. It's invaluable for this imo, you know where all your money is and can log bookie password details too. It looks intimidating, but isn't really.
Regulars should be due a 770 reload any day now.
wrt Vic gubbings, proves it must be random! All I do there is refund if offers, plenty of them, and touch wood my accounts alright.
So far, 5 months and 30-odd books in, I'm limited at 365, sportingbet and Sky.
Edited by richardxjr on Monday 19th March 09:20
croyde, I wouldn't to allyoubet just yet. Quite a WR to do and you have to budget for every bet winning there. Put it this way, I haven't done them yet. Plenty more simple, big UK name, books to do first
When you do, if you go via OLBG, it's deposit 200, get 20 refund on lose, bet 400 (yes, redepositing if necessary) to get bonus of 100. total WR = 8 x deposit so 1600, all at odds 2.0+
Please do post up any you are thinking of doing though.
When you do, if you go via OLBG, it's deposit 200, get 20 refund on lose, bet 400 (yes, redepositing if necessary) to get bonus of 100. total WR = 8 x deposit so 1600, all at odds 2.0+
Please do post up any you are thinking of doing though.
Edited by richardxjr on Tuesday 20th March 09:05
Bet770, be aware of the warnings on mse. They keep offering reloads, the business model is not sustainable. Slow payouts BUT I and others keep going in
Refund on lose is generally treated the same as an SNR freebet on your spreadsheet (longer odds, underlaying).
Read the long 770 thread on mse to understand it all and be aware of the risk.
I've had another thought about 365. Yes, defo do it once you and your float are ready for the wr. But I would now say only bet in £50's. They are REALLY quick to limit here, even during the Sub. So avoid horses altogether, just high level UK/Euro footie, max £50 bets. Spread over a couple of weeks ideally.
There's the £200 sub, £50 mobile, then regular £50 footie's as Sarge points out. But if you're limited, you're excluded from those footie reloads. So it's worth playing real safe to not get limited here.
Refund on lose is generally treated the same as an SNR freebet on your spreadsheet (longer odds, underlaying).
Read the long 770 thread on mse to understand it all and be aware of the risk.
I've had another thought about 365. Yes, defo do it once you and your float are ready for the wr. But I would now say only bet in £50's. They are REALLY quick to limit here, even during the Sub. So avoid horses altogether, just high level UK/Euro footie, max £50 bets. Spread over a couple of weeks ideally.
There's the £200 sub, £50 mobile, then regular £50 footie's as Sarge points out. But if you're limited, you're excluded from those footie reloads. So it's worth playing real safe to not get limited here.
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