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timskipper
1,201 posts
135 months
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superkartracer said: Anyway, what do you think he is trading from? they must have a hung warehouse costing 10k a month easy to hold all this tat + staff and many other costs. 5 mins on http://www.duedil.com/ will get you the warehouse address and even a picture!
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DSLiverpool
3,303 posts
71 months
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raptor600 said: Brilliant. Make up completely random numbers to justify your argument.
They have 100,000 transactions in the last month alone on eBay. They sell on their own site and also on Amazon. So they will be having circa 150k transactions a month.
A few more than the 200 a day you pulled out of thin air. I agree BUT I know from my small scale experience that once we go over a certain number of sales we need to do a lot more to justify the extra man power / logistic costs. The overheads on such a set up must cause ripples somewhere and how they are under the radar is beyond me.
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raptor600
1,356 posts
15 months
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superkartracer said: Anyway, whats the better business model, selling 150k items a month or 1000 The one that results in the most net profit.
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JustinP1
10,276 posts
99 months
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DSLiverpool said: I agree BUT I know from my small scale experience that once we go over a certain number of sales we need to do a lot more to justify the extra man power / logistic costs. The overheads on such a set up must cause ripples somewhere and how they are under the radar is beyond me. Maybe they are funded from abroad? Looking at the stock it is huge amounts of small things. Maybe they just get a huge shipment every week of their stuff? How it gets through customs may be a different issue...  Their ebay shop could be run for a few quid from abroad to do the product pages etc. Their warehouse may be staffed by 'people they know' as oppose to the general public. Each day they get thousands of labels automated, and the 'people they know' stick them onto envelopes and off they go... As you've mentioned, I doubt it could be hugely profitable through 'traditional business methods' - but it could turn a profit IMHO. However, if they are not using 'traditional business methods' then their profit might me much larger. Read into that what you will...
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DSLiverpool
3,303 posts
71 months
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JustinP1 said: DSLiverpool said: I agree BUT I know from my small scale experience that once we go over a certain number of sales we need to do a lot more to justify the extra man power / logistic costs. The overheads on such a set up must cause ripples somewhere and how they are under the radar is beyond me. Maybe they are funded from abroad? Looking at the stock it is huge amounts of small things. Maybe they just get a huge shipment every week of their stuff? How it gets through customs may be a different issue... Their ebay shop could be run for a few quid from abroad to do the product pages etc. Their warehouse may be staffed by 'people they know' as oppose to the general public. Each day they get thousands of labels automated, and the 'people they know' stick them onto envelopes and off they go... As you've mentioned, I doubt it could be hugely profitable through 'traditional business methods' - but it could turn a profit IMHO. However, if they are not using 'traditional business methods' then their profit might me much larger. Read into that what you will... Nicely put and the spelling sort of backs up the off shore page origination. However how do you hide something like that - its like hiding an very large thing in a very open place
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raptor600
1,356 posts
15 months
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DSLiverpool said: Nicely put and the spelling sort of backs up the off shore page origination. However how do you hide something like that - its like hiding an very large thing in a very open place Why not email companies house or HMRC and make them aware that the company is trading but records indicate it is dormant?
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DSLiverpool
3,303 posts
71 months
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raptor600 said: Why not email companies house or HMRC and make them aware that the company is trading but records indicate it is dormant? Next Accounts Due Date: 31 Dec 2012 - says on the creditsafe and riskdisk sites - something odd beyond my comprehension
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superkartracer
6,681 posts
91 months
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raptor600 said: superkartracer said: Anyway, whats the better business model, selling 150k items a month or 1000 The one that results in the most net profit. Wrong, the one thats lets you sit back and make maximum $ for the least effort/risk 150k items = much pain/effort 1k items = 1.5% of the effort for the same return To add - 150k items requires 17 full time packing staff packing 300 each per 7 hour shift ( working hard ) + the vast amount of mistakes made and admin created. 1k items requires ONE person for 2 hours per day Wages - 250k + PA Wages - 6k part-time This only applies if this biz is legal anyway ...
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superkartracer
6,681 posts
91 months
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What they might do, is pre-pack all the crap and load into bays, then have a fully auto-matted system so postage info pumped out with order, slapped on pre-packed tat and away you go, would save vast amounts of time.
What about the Royal Mail collections, they must have many van's coming to collect this stuff most prob in-house RM staff.
Each sack holds around 30 items ( small ) thats 230 sacks per day ( including weekends ) they must send lorries each day!!!!!
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dazco
3,329 posts
58 months
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timskipper said: You are a top man, I have been looking for that site for ages but forgot what it was called, and you can imagine how many results a Google search of 'free online company check' brought me. Thanks
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raptor600
1,356 posts
15 months
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superkartracer said: raptor600 said: superkartracer said: Anyway, whats the better business model, selling 150k items a month or 1000 The one that results in the most net profit. Wrong, the one thats lets you sit back and make maximum $ for the least effort/risk 150k items = much pain/effort 1k items = 1.5% of the effort for the same return You are (wrongly) assuming it is just as easy to find products that have high margins - this isn't the case. Of course with your example (again using your made up numbers to suit your argument) then it is better to sell the high margin stuff. But it isn't that simple.
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superkartracer
6,681 posts
91 months
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Like i said, ALL our items make 50% OR we drop them and there are 1000's of items with those margins, in-fact i've just had a shipment drop into Southampton today that has products waiting for buyers• that have made £1000 each and only cost $250 all in ( VAT/DUTY/SHIPPING door to door ) • These people are actually fighting over these products I'd tell you what they were but you seem like an a  hole
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raptor600
1,356 posts
15 months
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superkartracer said: I'd tell you what they were but you seem like an a hole All I have done is correct the plethora of mistakes you have made in this thread. I don't need you business advice either thanks.
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superkartracer
6,681 posts
91 months
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dazco
3,329 posts
58 months
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superkartracer said: Like i said, ALL our items make 50% OR we drop them and there are 1000's of items with those margins, in-fact i've just had a shipment drop into Southampton today that has products waiting for buyers• that have made £1000 each and only cost $250 all in ( VAT/DUTY/SHIPPING door to door ) • These people are actually fighting over these products I'd tell you what they were but you seem like an a hole I KNOW  
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OllyK
387 posts
81 months
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superkartracer said: Like i said, ALL our items make 50% OR we drop them and there are 1000's of items with those margins, in-fact i've just had a shipment drop into Southampton today that has products waiting for buyers• that have made £1000 each and only cost $250 all in ( VAT/DUTY/SHIPPING door to door ) • These people are actually fighting over these products I'd tell you what they were but you seem like an a hole Pray tell...?
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superkartracer
6,681 posts
91 months
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dazco said: superkartracer said: Like i said, ALL our items make 50% OR we drop them and there are 1000's of items with those margins, in-fact i've just had a shipment drop into Southampton today that has products waiting for buyers• that have made £1000 each and only cost $250 all in ( VAT/DUTY/SHIPPING door to door ) • These people are actually fighting over these products I'd tell you what they were but you seem like an a hole I KNOW Fook rumbled 
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superkartracer
6,681 posts
91 months
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OllyK said: Pray tell...? Art 
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chowiekid
214 posts
28 months
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I may have visited BAbz new warehouse recently for little spy tactics very small indeed. Around 9000sqf.
We do 1/5 the business and currently fill a 50,000sqf warehouse a lot of small. We are even soul importers of some of his products and yet he's cheaper! We can't even compete.
This company must be stopped. Unless its simply a ploy to get his postage costs down by shipping small things at costs etc
Puzzles my brain.
When I visited there warehouse for the evening there were around 2 employees packing and tonnes of pallets of stock outside.
They sell mail light packaging something that would take a lot of storage and there were no we're near enou cases to cover orders that appear on there eBay. Plus they also have another eBay store doing 30,000 transactions a month! Plus there amazon and site and BAbz that's near enough 200,000-250,000 transactions there is no way it's legal in any form. There were no pick ups in the period of time i sat there...
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chowiekid
214 posts
28 months
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That was written on an iPad so hence the poor grammar. Clearly going to get pointed out by some in breads people on here
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