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fast eddys

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522 posts

70 months

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Anyone used ebay alternatives like ebid for selling either privately or commercially as ebay charges are silly?

If so what do you think of them?

Cheers

Eddy

AndyJaaaag

14 posts

12 months

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Starting to agree with you, They now insist you allow paypal payment, who swipe another 3%+ for your sale. That is despite the well known scam similar to the Western Union scam where cash on collection for larger items can end up with them able to claim thier money back off you fo not recieving.
In fact I am not allowed to mention Western union in a description as it gets censored out. aaarrggg rant over!

I have started to look at gumtree which is good for local stuff. But you have to ask if you havent heard of it why would anyone else buy from it.
I need an online auction for more unusual antique or specialist tech type stuff which take a long time to sell waiting for the right person at the right time to turn up.

fast eddys

Original Poster:

522 posts

70 months

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Ebid looks the best, but does not have the audience of ebay. If more people were aware and used it it would be good as an option to the monopoly of ebay

Eddy

mmm-five

5,905 posts

153 months

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Tried using Ebid a couple of times, but kept getting sporadic errors when trying to view the details of anything.

chris7676

2,259 posts

89 months

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I'm really amazed that after so many years no one has come up with an alternative taking into account that they charge around 10% without actually transacting it (just listing and bidding). No doubt EBay is a strong brand but it's hardly state-of-the-art technology involved in spite of them being the worldwide "leader". Perhaps a proof that markets are not always efficient.
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singlecoil

14,928 posts

115 months

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If I want to sell something, I put it on ebay. I know the fees are quite high, but I'd sooner pay higher fees and sell it, than pay less and not. Stuff that works well usually does cost more than stuff that doesn't.

Prolex-UK

255 posts

77 months

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I've got stuff on ebid but not had any joy at all.

Moved over to amazon where trade is quite good.

fast eddys

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522 posts

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Prolex-UK said:
I've got stuff on ebid but not had any joy at all.

Moved over to amazon where trade is quite good.
Glad you are doing ok on Amazon. I thought the charges/commision was quite high on there too.

Eddy

russ_a

1,386 posts

80 months

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Would take a large amount of cash to compete with eBay now.

Still don't understand why yahoo auctions just shut down one day and redirected to eBay!

mjb1

662 posts

28 months

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russ_a said:
Would take a large amount of cash to compete with eBay now.

Still don't understand why yahoo auctions just shut down one day and redirected to eBay!
Because they allowed eBay to buy them out! I remember it happening and it was a real shame, as yahoo auctions were nearly as popular as ebay back in the day (fees were negligible/non existent back then as well).

Proved to be a very shrewd business move by eBay - using the Microsoft strategy of buying up the opposition before it gets big enough to be a threat. They did similar when they bought Paypal, knowing that it would be a huge extra commission for them.

Unfortunately for sellers, eBay is now a total monopoly, and I don't that changing in the forseeable future. Because they are so big, they have a much bigger market of buyers, which pushes up prices.

One thing I really liked about yahoo auctions was the flexible end time - if a bid was made in the last 10 minutes the auction would automatically extend for another 10 minutes, just like a real auction. This stopped the last second sniping (and to an extent shill bidding) that tends to artificially inflate prices on ebay. I wish ebay would offer it as an option on their auctions.

DSLiverpool

3,294 posts

71 months

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Look out for a version of froogle / google shopping that is ebayesq, when I say version its possibly part of the new channges hitting USA this year and here in 2013 - Google shopping goes pay per advert and a new type of "listing" and visibility is available - like ebay? pay by Google checkout smile

fridaypassion

2,313 posts

97 months

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This is the interesting thing about the development of the internet for shopping (or indeed other things). Rather than open up choice it can eventually simply stamp out all the competition. There was an attempt a few years ago that got a few million quid of VC funding called Firedup but that sank. That was ten years ago too and it would be harder and more expensive now.

Ebid looks a great contender for a big brand to come and buy and develop. Its 90% there it just needs people on it. Not sure who owns it at present but I get the impression they are waiting for the phone to ring with an offer as it tends not to develop much these days.

As counter intuitive as it may sound I think there may be a market for an auction site that excludes commercial traders. I much preferred ebay in the early days before traders jumped on and filled the listings up with 35 auctions of the same item. I say this as someone who does from time to time put stock on ebay too.

Prolex-UK

255 posts

77 months

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fast eddys said:
Prolex-UK said:
I've got stuff on ebid but not had any joy at all.

Moved over to amazon where trade is quite good.
Glad you are doing ok on Amazon. I thought the charges/commision was quite high on there too.

Eddy
I've got 2300 items listed for £25 a month and they take 7% per sale and pay out every two weeks.

Just had my first W*******er leaving me negative feedback even though I said I'd accept the part back he no longer wanted but he would not arrange a collection time with the courier........amazon refuse to remove the feedback as they will only move it if the feedback is abusive :-(

UberMeister

117 posts

21 months

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fridaypassion said:
As counter intuitive as it may sound I think there may be a market for an auction site that excludes commercial traders. I much preferred ebay in the early days before traders jumped on and filled the listings up with 35 auctions of the same item. I say this as someone who does from time to time put stock on ebay too.
This is my biggest issue with eBay atm, it's just filled with commercial traders that sell stuff at BIN prices no less than anywhere else on the web...

I find filtering by private seller, item located in UK and auction only gets rid of most businesses.

DSLiverpool

3,294 posts

71 months

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Is it an opportunity for a few PHers to chip in and launch a site, surely the expertise is on here at all levels - if enough oh retailers supported our own site it would have instant stock and there are enough it guys on here to sort quality feeds and Seo

I'm up for it - woud we need more than £50k ? Template auction sites are cheap, server time will initially be low cost

Simpo Two

54,239 posts

134 months

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I believe Ted has already tried/is trying it.

DSLiverpool

3,294 posts

71 months

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Is he going alone or with sellers, Seo experts and others to help? I'm not aware if anything.

New sites die because sellers can't be arsed listing on new no traffic sites - if sellers are par owners it won't happen.

fridaypassion

2,313 posts

97 months

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Unless you have a £10 million advertising budget I would forget it!

supertouring

967 posts

102 months

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As already said, Ebay now holds a virtual monopoly of this type of website and without an extremely large budget and years of software development, no one will knock it off its top spot.

Lots try with promises of cheap fees for sellers, but without the customer base, all clone sites fail.

As for "trade sellers", that is where the site is heading (see lots of big corporate names signing up to it now) at the detrement of the personal casual seller, who are a pain and expensive to support.




bigandclever

6,358 posts

107 months

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Simpo Two said:
I believe Ted has already tried/is trying it.
Tedvertiser was shutdown a while ago. I thought it was a good concept (essentially 'social network' linked classifieds ie you 'knew' the buyers/sellers better) but it just didn't seem to get any kind of critical mass.
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