Selling a business

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HIS LM

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259 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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Anyone had the misfortune of dealing with a Company that could be run by anthea Turner and gerard Butler

I have received a threatening solicitors letter for the Sale of my Company that never happened



wattsm666

694 posts

265 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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If not sold why are they chasing fees?

wattsm666

694 posts

265 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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If not sold why are they chasing fees?

Steffan

10,362 posts

228 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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wattsm666 said:
If not sold why are they chasing fees?
Indeed why are they chasing fees. Did you instruct them? That would do it!

HIS LM

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Wednesday 29th January 2014
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wattsm666 said:
If not sold why are they chasing fees?
Precisely that is why I am asking - unless they are unscrupulous ambulance chasing bar stewards - has anybody else received a letter

Steffan

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228 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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HIS LM said:
wattsm666 said:
If not sold why are they chasing fees?
Precisely that is why I am asking - unless they are unscrupulous ambulance chasing bar stewards - has anybody else received a letter
I fear you my be operating under an illusion. If you have issued instructions to a firm of solicitors in connection with the sale of your business they may expect fees irrespective of whether the sale was effected. What does your original letter of instructions actually say?

HIS LM

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Wednesday 29th January 2014
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Steffan said:
I fear you my be operating under an illusion. If you have issued instructions to a firm of solicitors in connection with the sale of your business they may expect fees irrespective of whether the sale was effected. What does your original letter of instructions actually say?
No let me explain in 2007 I instructed anthea and gerard to sell my business they were hopeless and unsuccessful - today I received a demand for a very large fee or court action will follow

Steffan

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228 months

Wednesday 29th January 2014
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HIS LM said:
Steffan said:
I fear you my be operating under an illusion. If you have issued instructions to a firm of solicitors in connection with the sale of your business they may expect fees irrespective of whether the sale was effected. What does your original letter of instructions actually say?
No let me explain in 2007 I instructed anthea and gerard to sell my business they were hopeless and unsuccessful - today I received a demand for a very large fee or court action will follow
As I said before What does your original letter of instructions actually say?. In other words hat did the Solicitors letter of appointment say about the basis of fees? Were they aware they were at risk? I rather doubt it.

spikeyhead

17,321 posts

197 months

Thursday 30th January 2014
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If it was seven years ago, isn't it too late for them to be chasing it?

HIS LM

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Thursday 30th January 2014
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Steffan said:
As I said before What does your original letter of instructions actually say?. In other words hat did the Solicitors letter of appointment say about the basis of fees? Were they aware they were at risk? I rather doubt it.
They are not a firm of solicitors they sell businesses cough !

Siscar

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129 months

Thursday 30th January 2014
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HIS LM said:
Steffan said:
As I said before What does your original letter of instructions actually say?. In other words hat did the Solicitors letter of appointment say about the basis of fees? Were they aware they were at risk? I rather doubt it.
They are not a firm of solicitors they sell businesses cough !
Yes but what were the terms of business agreed to? It doesn't necessarily follow that it was "no sale, no fee"

Frimley111R

15,663 posts

234 months

Thursday 30th January 2014
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I know the industry and know which company you are talking about (just call me Sherlock). I suspect they had an upfront fee which covers the work they do to sell your business. However there are no guarantees in them or anyone achieving this. After 7 yrs this wuold have been all over/finished.

So, firstly, have you since sold your business? If so, was it to someone they identified? Companies in the industry often have terms that say that if you do sell to a buyer they identified up to a certain period after their work finished, then they can claim their commission. I can only assume you have sold your business?

HIS LM

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Thursday 30th January 2014
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Frimley111R said:
I know the industry and know which company you are talking about (just call me Sherlock). I suspect they had an upfront fee which covers the work they do to sell your business. However there are no guarantees in them or anyone achieving this. After 7 yrs this wuold have been all over/finished.

So, firstly, have you since sold your business? If so, was it to someone they identified? Companies in the industry often have terms that say that if you do sell to a buyer they identified up to a certain period after their work finished, then they can claim their commission. I can only assume you have sold your business?
No I still own it

HIS LM

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Thursday 30th January 2014
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anonymous said:
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They said no win no fee and no upfront fees check their website - I don't have a copy of the agreement that was 7 years ago

Frimley111R

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Thursday 30th January 2014
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HIS LM said:
Frimley111R said:
I know the industry and know which company you are talking about (just call me Sherlock). I suspect they had an upfront fee which covers the work they do to sell your business. However there are no guarantees in them or anyone achieving this. After 7 yrs this wuold have been all over/finished.

So, firstly, have you since sold your business? If so, was it to someone they identified? Companies in the industry often have terms that say that if you do sell to a buyer they identified up to a certain period after their work finished, then they can claim their commission. I can only assume you have sold your business?
No I still own it
Ok, well according to their website the only charge they will levy on you is a commission on completion of the sale. According to them:

"All conversations are strictly confidential. Your satisfaction is assured through our no risk, 100%, iron-clad guarantee.

Guarantee 1-No Upfront Fees
To put it simply we will never charge you an upfront fee, an advance fee, a marketing fee, a commitment fee, a valuation fee or a documentation fee.

Guarantee 2-No Cancellation Fees
We will not charge you a fee for cancelling our agreement. Your decision to sell your business is one of the most important decisions you will ever make. To secure the best possible outcome for yourself, it is of paramount importance that you work with a team dedicated to your best interests.

Guarantee 3 – No Abort fees
If you decide not to accept an offer or don’t want to proceed with an agreed sale of your business then we will not charge you a refusal or abort fee. It is entirely your prerogative to reject an offer for your business and we feel that you should not be put under pressure to accept an offer or proceed with a sale if you have changed your mind."

counterofbeans

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139 months

Thursday 30th January 2014
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HIS LM said:
Precisely that is why I am asking - unless they are unscrupulous ambulance chasing bar stewards - has anybody else received a letter
Why would anyone else receive a letter about the sale of yur company?

Frimley111R

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Thursday 30th January 2014
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Steffan

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228 months

Thursday 30th January 2014
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There are a number of features in this matter including the time delay which need amplification to make any real sense of the problem itself. As others have said we need more detail to assess the reality of such a belated bill. Over to the OP.

HIS LM

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Thursday 30th January 2014
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Steffan said:
There are a number of features in this matter including the time delay which need amplification to make any real sense of the problem itself. As others have said we need more detail to assess the reality of such a belated bill. Over to the OP.
What do you mean time delay

Frimley111R

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Thursday 30th January 2014
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