Any Business Rates experts?

Any Business Rates experts?

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rsv gone!

Original Poster:

11,288 posts

241 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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We've received demands to pay business rates on some of our building site accommodation. These are portable cabins.

Any idea if this is justified?

trickywoo

11,784 posts

230 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Its the council - justified doesn't come into it.

They must have been assessed at some point. If this wasn't in your tenancy then it might be worth asking for a review. You'll need to call the local council but don't expect anything to happen in a hurry.

The rates people are a strange lot. I was looking at office space recently and some offices had additional rateable value based on whether or not they had air conditioning and car parking space. One office had extra rates for A/C and parking spaces at £500 each a year while another office in the same area had both these but no additional rates.

rsv gone!

Original Poster:

11,288 posts

241 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Just to be clear, there is no tenancy. We're a building contractor, putting up social housing on our clients' sites. This temp accommodation is our site cabins.

soxboy

6,216 posts

219 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Depends how long they're going to be there for, I.e. how 'transient' they are.

If less than 12 months probably not rateable, if more than 12 months they will be.

Chrisgr31

13,474 posts

255 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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soxboy said:
Depends how long they're going to be there for, I.e. how 'transient' they are.

If less than 12 months probably not rateable, if more than 12 months they will be.
Thats basically it, how long are they going to be there for? How long have they been there? When you finish they'll be taken out the List again but the date of that will depend how long they are there for.

Where are you? Must be a fairly active Council to have started assessing site huts, mist dont bother.

rsv gone!

Original Poster:

11,288 posts

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Friday 25th July 2014
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Chrisgr31 said:
Where are you? Must be a fairly active Council to have started assessing site huts, mist dont bother.
Programme lengths are in months, not years. The LA is Hertford.

I've never been stung for this in over 15yrs of doing the job.

Chrisgr31

13,474 posts

255 months

Sunday 27th July 2014
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I'll have a look at it in a bit more detail when I have a moment. Do the site huts still exist at all the sites? Where they there when the VO brought them in? Have you appealed at all?

Oh and ignore all the rating guys who ring you, write to you about them, if thats needed we'll get to that point and can suggest who you should use! Generally avoid those that cold call!


rsv gone!

Original Poster:

11,288 posts

241 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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We haven't appealed yet.

On what grounds would you suggest? Dispute it in its entirety or propose a different value?

soxboy

6,216 posts

219 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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I think before advising further it would be useful to know how long you genuinely think they'll be on site for?

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Original Poster:

11,288 posts

241 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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These are pretty small sites, so about 9/10 months.

soxboy

6,216 posts

219 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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rsv gone! said:
These are pretty small sites, so about 9/10 months.
In which case you should appeal. It costs nothing and can be done online.

Just set out clearly that as they will only be there for 9-10 months you believe they are too temporary to be rated. It will be interesting to hear what the response is.

Chrisgr31

13,474 posts

255 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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Ensure they do go within 9/10 months and certainly don't stay longer than a year. If necessary you might need to do with a site office or have it in the new building for a while.

In theory you have to make several appeals, one to delete, and one ti reduce the value, that way all bases are covered.