Definition of 'new' car for FYA

Definition of 'new' car for FYA

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Cogcog

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11,800 posts

235 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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HMRC allows a 100% first year allowance for;

Low CO2 emission cars
FYA are available for expenditure on a new electric car, or a new, unused car with CO2 emissions up to the threshold. For expenditure incurred before 1/6 April 2013 the threshold is not more than 110gm per km driven.



Does anybody know how they define 'new'? I have a delivery miles pre reg. car in mind but I am getting conflicting advice from HMRC on whether that is 'new' for this purpose as one HMRC bod says if it has any other keeper it is not 'new' whereas the other says as long as it is unused it is new.

Eric Mc

122,010 posts

265 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Certainly, for FYA purposes regarding "Plant and Machinery", "new" refers to "new to the business making the claim".

In other words, a second hand item counts as new.

Cogcog

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Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Eric Mc said:
Certainly, for FYA purposes regarding "Plant and Machinery", "new" refers to "new to the business making the claim".

In other words, a second hand item counts as new.
I spoke to their 'helpline' ( 3 calls, 60 mins in total). One adviser said that her boss had said; 'new has to be entirely new and pre-reg was not new'. I called back and spoke to someone else as I thought I had actually got the employees helpline, who promised me an inspector would call me. I am still waiting.

Eric Mc

122,010 posts

265 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Cogcog said:
I spoke to their 'helpline' ( 3 calls, 60 mins in total). One adviser said that her boss had said; 'new has to be entirely new and pre-reg was not new'. I called back and spoke to someone else as I thought I had actually got the employees helpline, who promised me an inspector would call me. I am still waiting.
This is what the HMRC website says - and it does indeed look like they apply a stricter definition of "new" when talking about low emission motor cars -

Low CO2 emission cars

FYA are available for expenditure on a new electric car, or a new, unused car with CO2 emissions up to the threshold. For expenditure incurred before 1/6 April 2013 the threshold is not more than 110gm per km driven. From 1/6 April 2013 (subject to legislation) the threshold was reduced to not more than 95g per km driven

Cogcog

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235 months

Saturday 23rd August 2014
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Spoke with a tax inspector. They accept that a car with delivery mileage is 'NEW' for FYA. He has made a note on my company file that that effect.

sumo69

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220 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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Cogcog said:
Spoke with a tax inspector. They accept that a car with delivery mileage is 'NEW' for FYA. He has made a note on my company file that that effect.
All new cars come with delivery mileage so hardly a shock.

I would have thought that being the first registered keeper is likely to be the important point.

David