End of a lease - Dilapidation on a building to be demolished
Discussion
johnfm said:
s2kjock said:
johnfm said:
You will probably want the advice of a good property litigation lawyer.
You can probably get some good initial advice from a good one for less than £500 - if that.
The landlord might take the piss - so you might need decent advice.
Is it not surveyors who normally advise on dilaps claims?You can probably get some good initial advice from a good one for less than £500 - if that.
The landlord might take the piss - so you might need decent advice.
In your first post you mentioned that the tenant next door agreed a dilap cost of £2.5k.
You also stated that you were in no position to pay this amount of money.
Sorry if this sounds blunt, but why would you sign a lease without making provision for the end of lease costs?
Also, the suggestion of getting professional advice of a solicitor and surveyor is interesting, as you will quite easily burn through £2.5k in a very short period of time in terms of their fees.
Personally I would look to try to negotiate an amount directly with the landlord based on what you owe according to the contract you signed. And as suggested above, I would make an agreement that if the building is subsequently demolished that the dilap costs would be returned to you.
You also stated that you were in no position to pay this amount of money.
Sorry if this sounds blunt, but why would you sign a lease without making provision for the end of lease costs?
Also, the suggestion of getting professional advice of a solicitor and surveyor is interesting, as you will quite easily burn through £2.5k in a very short period of time in terms of their fees.
Personally I would look to try to negotiate an amount directly with the landlord based on what you owe according to the contract you signed. And as suggested above, I would make an agreement that if the building is subsequently demolished that the dilap costs would be returned to you.
t400ble said:
Just having same bother having left a unit
5k a year rent 1000sq ft unit
Been in unit 5 years
Hit with a 9k delapidations bill
Roof if dirty. It's as clean as the unit next door they have just rented out
Metal guttering has a small patch of rust and requires repair.
Utter joke
Ask them for their diminution valuation. 5k a year rent 1000sq ft unit
Been in unit 5 years
Hit with a 9k delapidations bill
Roof if dirty. It's as clean as the unit next door they have just rented out
Metal guttering has a small patch of rust and requires repair.
Utter joke
surveyor said:
t400ble said:
Just having same bother having left a unit
5k a year rent 1000sq ft unit
Been in unit 5 years
Hit with a 9k delapidations bill
Roof if dirty. It's as clean as the unit next door they have just rented out
Metal guttering has a small patch of rust and requires repair.
Utter joke
Ask them for their diminution valuation. 5k a year rent 1000sq ft unit
Been in unit 5 years
Hit with a 9k delapidations bill
Roof if dirty. It's as clean as the unit next door they have just rented out
Metal guttering has a small patch of rust and requires repair.
Utter joke
Any advice welcomed
t400ble said:
Just having same bother having left a unit
5k a year rent 1000sq ft unit
Been in unit 5 years
Hit with a 9k delapidations bill
Roof if dirty. It's as clean as the unit next door they have just rented out
Metal guttering has a small patch of rust and requires repair.
Utter joke
I don’t think it’s a joke!! Of course some are going to take the piss, but it’s just a starting point as they know you aren’t just going to stump up the first offer no matter what it is. 5k a year rent 1000sq ft unit
Been in unit 5 years
Hit with a 9k delapidations bill
Roof if dirty. It's as clean as the unit next door they have just rented out
Metal guttering has a small patch of rust and requires repair.
Utter joke
Plus you can’t compare your roof to the one next door? Your lease is about the roof of the building you were leasing, you don’t know what’s in the neighbours agreement??
End of the day you need to be prepared and it sounds like a lot of tenants simply aren’t. Go in with your eyes wide open and EXPECT the landlord to try profit from you at the lease end!!
When you take out a lease you need to agree a proper and detailed schedule outlining the exact details and condition of anything and everything.
Simply go round with a camera and photograph everything, then in 10yrs time you can go back with some proof, not just a complaint that the neighbours roof is dirty too.
Sorry for sounding like a knob, but these things work both ways.
Surveyor posted some excellent advice on the 1st page which I won't repeat.
In a successful dilapidated negotiation you need to appoint a surveying practice who can span both the anal process under the lease and also negotiate a good deal when toe to toe with the landlord's surveyor. It's not often that the same person can do both so make sure you retain a firm who can satisfy you they have the capability both to adhere to process and to secure a good deal.
As said, keep bringing it back to the dimunition in value to the reversion. Another tactic that I've used to good effect in the past is, if the LL is not moving enough on the settlement figure, start saying that you'll get the work done rather than paying them the money. That normally focuses their mind on a realistic deal.
In a successful dilapidated negotiation you need to appoint a surveying practice who can span both the anal process under the lease and also negotiate a good deal when toe to toe with the landlord's surveyor. It's not often that the same person can do both so make sure you retain a firm who can satisfy you they have the capability both to adhere to process and to secure a good deal.
As said, keep bringing it back to the dimunition in value to the reversion. Another tactic that I've used to good effect in the past is, if the LL is not moving enough on the settlement figure, start saying that you'll get the work done rather than paying them the money. That normally focuses their mind on a realistic deal.
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