Disgruntled employee

Disgruntled employee

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andy-xr

13,204 posts

204 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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Officially stopped working, or officially stopped going into the office and is on notice or garden leave? What I'm trying to get to is, are the assets still owed, or is she pulling a fast one and being evasive for another reason rather than getting the full benefit of something that was part of her job

dudleybloke

19,825 posts

186 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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Cancel the car insurance and put it on SORN.

snobetter

1,160 posts

146 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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dudleybloke said:
Cancel the car insurance and put it on SORN.
Who would end up paying if there was an accident then...?

Dr Interceptor

7,786 posts

196 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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Report the car as stolen to the police... it is effectively TWOC now, as she has no permission to continue possession of it.

I wouldn't worry about the phone, once the car is located and returned, the rest will follow.

528Sport

1,431 posts

234 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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Making an assumption here....

She has a company car, she is no longer an employee. Therefore id guess she's no insured to drive it any more?


Ring cops... car stolen and being driven by an uninsured driver.


job done

don't forget to give her a glowing reference :-)

Edited by 528Sport on Wednesday 15th April 16:29

Tyre Tread

10,534 posts

216 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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Come on, we need the PH super sleuths to hunt her like a dog track her down.

Jasandjules

69,895 posts

229 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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I trust that the lease car is only insured for "employees". Therefore if she is no longer an employee she is driving a stolen car without insurance. Get plod to impound it and go collect - then bill her for the costs.

dacouch

1,172 posts

129 months

Martin4x4

6,506 posts

132 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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You need to clarify what you mean by "stopped working"

So for example if still under notice and on gardening leave, staff are entitled to retain their benefits in kind until the end of the notice period.

AB8219

695 posts

147 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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Any update OP?

allergictocheese

1,290 posts

113 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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Stop with all the Police stuff. It's not theft because there was no dishonest appropriation and intent to permanently deprive would be hard to overcome.

It's a civil matter.

dudleybloke

19,825 posts

186 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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Can you find her on social media?

Getragdogleg

8,768 posts

183 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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allergictocheese said:
Stop with all the Police stuff. It's not theft because there was no dishonest appropriation and intent to permanently deprive would be hard to overcome.

It's a civil matter.
Without trying to kick off a massive PH bun fight I have to ask, exactly what are the Police for?

NoNeed

15,137 posts

200 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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Getragdogleg said:
allergictocheese said:
Stop with all the Police stuff. It's not theft because there was no dishonest appropriation and intent to permanently deprive would be hard to overcome.

It's a civil matter.
Without trying to kick off a massive PH bun fight I have to ask, exactly what are the Police for?
If she takes property that she doesn't own without permission and has no intent on it's return, then that's theft.

It is a police matter. Also the fact somebody is probably driving while uninsured as no longer an employee, is also a police matter.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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Getragdogleg said:
allergictocheese said:
Stop with all the Police stuff. It's not theft because there was no dishonest appropriation and intent to permanently deprive would be hard to overcome.

It's a civil matter.
Without trying to kick off a massive PH bun fight I have to ask, exactly what are the Police for?
I'd kick off a bun fight, he's not got a fking clue what he's on about biggrin

KrazyIvan

4,341 posts

175 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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allergictocheese said:
Stop with all the Police stuff. It's not theft because there was no dishonest appropriation and intent to permanently deprive would be hard to overcome.

It's a civil matter.
What exactly do you think Taken Without Consent is?

If she has been told to return the items, has been give ample opportunity to do so but reuses, then that IS a police matter, it's just no an emergency, hence the advice to ring a none 999 number

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

157 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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KrazyIvan said:
What exactly do you think Taken Without Consent is?
It's not been taken though, it was willingly given but has not returned.

It is a civil matter in Law and the police won't be interested.


Edited by PurpleMoonlight on Thursday 16th April 09:12

andy-xr

13,204 posts

204 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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KrazyIvan said:
What exactly do you think Taken Without Consent is?

If she has been told to return the items, has been give ample opportunity to do so but reuses, then that IS a police matter, it's just no an emergency, hence the advice to ring a none 999 number
It's the bit where the woman was granted use of the car that'll make things sticky, the removing of that agreement means she should return them within a reasonable timeframe, it's just that reasonable to the OP and reasonable to the ex employee seem to be different.

There's no evidence that she's driving the car around, it could well be tucked up in her new garage and she wants to get the house unpacked. More likely though to me, she's using it to get to interviews for a new job, seeing as the old one knocked her back, the mindset will be to make full use of what she can before handing it back.

Jasandjules

69,895 posts

229 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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PurpleMoonlight said:
It's not been taken though, it was willingly given but has not returned.

It is a civil matter in Law and the police won't be interested.
It's been all too long since I studied criminal law, but I thought that once a given item has been asked for back (which wasn't a gift) the person is then treating it as their own and falls into theft.

S5PJV

891 posts

172 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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How about posting the car make and model, reg etc and last known area and the local PH mob keep an eye out for it/her ?