The Consumer Rights Act 2015

The Consumer Rights Act 2015

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Dixy

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2,918 posts

205 months

Thursday 1st October 2015
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Wow, I have been reading up on this and it frightens the life out of me, I operate a specialist retail business and pride myself on the service given. All businesses from time to time get the customer from hell but this will encourage more. It is also going to open a can of worms with our suppliers.
The only good news is it will make it harder for pile it high sell it cheap merchants.

Simpo Two

85,343 posts

265 months

Thursday 1st October 2015
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Dixy said:
Wow, I have been reading up on this and it frightens the life out of me, I operate a specialist retail business and pride myself on the service given. All businesses from time to time get the customer from hell but this will encourage more. It is also going to open a can of worms with our suppliers.
The only good news is it will make it harder for pile it high sell it cheap merchants.
Caught a bit of this this morning.

I believe this supersedes the 'Repair, Replace, Refund' of SOGA with 'Refund if within 30 days'. After six months the burden of proof passes to the consumer. Can't remember what happens in the middle bit.

When you consider how dishonest customers take advantage of eBay's 'Buyer is always right' concept, it does seem to open a whole new Blagger's Charter. Like Human Rights, great in princlple but flawed and abused in practice.

trickywoo

11,750 posts

230 months

Thursday 1st October 2015
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Simpo Two said:
It does seem to open a whole new Blagger's Charter. Like Human Rights, great in princlple but flawed and abused in practice.
Very true and as with many things like this the honest will end up paying for it in higher prices.

daemon

35,784 posts

197 months

Thursday 1st October 2015
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Summary here -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34410782

So, from what i'm reading, in the first six months, if something develops a fault, the seller has one attempt at fixing it, otherwise the buyer is legally entitled to a refund.

Thats going to make selling cars fun....

JustinP1

13,330 posts

230 months

Thursday 1st October 2015
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daemon said:
Summary here -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34410782

So, from what i'm reading, in the first six months, if something develops a fault, the seller has one attempt at fixing it, otherwise the buyer is legally entitled to a refund.

Thats going to make selling cars fun....
'Motor Cars' are exempted from the rules regarding there not being a reduction in refund after the 'final right to reject.'

Section 24 (10).

Edited by JustinP1 on Friday 2nd October 09:50

Dixy

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2,918 posts

205 months

Thursday 1st October 2015
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can you point to where it says that.

wack

2,103 posts

206 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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i have a business selling second hand goods on eBay , all it says is the act covers second hand goods, are they really saying if I sell somebody a secondhand pair of shoes I have to be liable for them for 6 months.

I've already had people buying video cameras then returning them at 2 weeks once they've copied all the tapes they found in their parents attic

Expecting me to guarantee a video camera that's 15 years old or a pair of used shoes
for months is crazy

There's no industry left, soon there won't be anybody selling anything either

JustinP1

13,330 posts

230 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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Dixy said:
can you point to where it says that.
I've made my point clearer above. The car could be eventually rejected, but, the buyer could not use the Act to argue for a 100% refund.

I would suggest that that might make a buyer looking to wash their hands of a car because of a minor fault think twice.

red_slr

17,213 posts

189 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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Can anybody advise what the situation is with perishable goods?

We sell a lot of PG and we always get issues where customers allow the goods to perish in the first 24/48 hours and then attempt to get a refund. We always say that the goods are not covered under SoGA - is this still the case?

Also - is there still a clause for special order goods? Again we sell quite a bit of items which are special order.

Frimley111R

15,614 posts

234 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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Relating to this, I have been looking into to Direct Debit Guarantees. Essentially if customer pays by DD and then decides they don't like a product, which can be years(!) after, they can calm all their money back, no questions. Its mad!

strattonkillick

145 posts

215 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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Frimley111R said:
Relating to this, I have been looking into to Direct Debit Guarantees. Essentially if customer pays by DD and then decides they don't like a product, which can be years(!) after, they can calm all their money back, no questions. Its mad!
There have been quite a few scams along the lines of this that I have heard about, we offer it to some of our customers (B2B), but once they are buying a lot from us we make them pay in other ways specifically because of this.

Frimley111R

15,614 posts

234 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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strattonkillick said:
Frimley111R said:
Relating to this, I have been looking into to Direct Debit Guarantees. Essentially if customer pays by DD and then decides they don't like a product, which can be years(!) after, they can calm all their money back, no questions. Its mad!
There have been quite a few scams along the lines of this that I have heard about, we offer it to some of our customers (B2B), but once they are buying a lot from us we make them pay in other ways specifically because of this.
What other ays? We're going through this now and it looks like WorldPay are our best Option so far.

Dixy

Original Poster:

2,918 posts

205 months

strattonkillick

145 posts

215 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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Frimley111R said:
strattonkillick said:
Frimley111R said:
Relating to this, I have been looking into to Direct Debit Guarantees. Essentially if customer pays by DD and then decides they don't like a product, which can be years(!) after, they can calm all their money back, no questions. Its mad!
There have been quite a few scams along the lines of this that I have heard about, we offer it to some of our customers (B2B), but once they are buying a lot from us we make them pay in other ways specifically because of this.
What other ays? We're going through this now and it looks like WorldPay are our best Option so far.
They will just pay us by BACS. DD is for the new accounts and bad payers who want to keep credit open!

strattonkillick

145 posts

215 months

Friday 2nd October 2015
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Frimley111R said:
strattonkillick said:
Frimley111R said:
Relating to this, I have been looking into to Direct Debit Guarantees. Essentially if customer pays by DD and then decides they don't like a product, which can be years(!) after, they can calm all their money back, no questions. Its mad!
There have been quite a few scams along the lines of this that I have heard about, we offer it to some of our customers (B2B), but once they are buying a lot from us we make them pay in other ways specifically because of this.
What other ays? We're going through this now and it looks like WorldPay are our best Option so far.
They will just pay us by BACS. DD is for the new accounts and bad payers who want to keep credit open!