Email lists; if I have over 10,000 subscribers..?

[LDN]

As per title. I have an email list of over 10,000 subscribers and need the cheapest platform to send mailouts from; preferably pay as you go as emails will be few and far between and paying per month won;t really make sense.

Other than Mailchimp, are there any decent providers who are good value?

[BJG1]

Do you have a particular problem with Mailchimp or are you just looking for other options? In my experience for that sort of volume there's nothing nearly as good as Mail Chimp for the same/similar money. Dotmailer would be my other recommendation but will cost you a bit more.

[miniman]

Campaign Monitor is pretty good.

[LDN]

Yes, I was looking for cheaper options TBH... Mailchimp still the best value for over 10k subs?

[BJG1]

LDN said:

Yes, I was looking for cheaper options TBH... Mailchimp still the best value for over 10k subs?

If you're hand coding all your emails then there will be cheaper options. If you want templates, easy to manage lists etc there won't be anything materially cheaper than Mailchimp

[DonnyMac]

You cannot legally use MailChimp, read here for info - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

You have to use a UK/EU provider.

10k isn't a massive volume and should be around the £100/mth mark for a professional provider.

I'd help you out but being 'cheap' is right at the end of our objectives, deliverabilty and IP reputation being right at the top.

[jammy_basturd]

DonnyMac said:

You cannot legally use MailChimp, read here for info - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

You have to use a UK/EU provider.

You can't possibly say that without knowing what data he has.

[davepoth]

jammy_basturd said:

You can't possibly say that without knowing what data he has.

He has names and email addresses, which is enough to be personal data under the DPA.

[DonnyMac]

jammy_basturd said:

DonnyMac said:

You cannot legally use MailChimp, read here for info - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

You have to use a UK/EU provider.

You can't possibly say that without knowing what data he has.

Sort of right, but my guess is it is UK/EU data as he's based in Manchester, it'll be personally identifiable data as it is email.

I've got a tenner to charity of your choice if I'm wrong.

[jammy_basturd]

I imagine you're right, but then I'm also willing to bet that no European based SME will be punished for sending emails via MailChimp or Campaign Monitor.

If anyone does come a cropper of this Safe Harbour bs it'll be the large corporations who are deliberately ignoring the rules.

In the same way I believe no one has been punished for the utterly stupid cookie law!

[DonnyMac]

jammy_basturd said:

In the same way I believe no one has been punished for the utterly stupid cookie law!

Now there's something we can agree on, the most ridiculous digital legislation they could have conceived of.

[Bikerjon]

Is there any evidence of UK users abandoning mailchimp en-masse because of this new ruling? What UK mailers are as easy to use as mailchimp?

[miniman]

DonnyMac said:

jammy_basturd said:

In the same way I believe no one has been punished for the utterly stupid cookie law!

Now there's something we can agree on, the most ridiculous digital legislation they could have conceived of.

ICO did significantly dilute it but, yes, st in the extreme.

[uber]

This is awesome and so much cheaper, it can be easily installed yourself or you can buy it as a service https://sendy.co/

https://easysendy.com/

[DonnyMac]

Bikerjon said:

Is there any evidence of UK users abandoning mailchimp en-masse because of this new ruling? What UK mailers are as easy to use as mailchimp?

Look at my profile.

[DonnyMac]

uber said:

This is awesome and so much cheaper, it can be easily installed yourself or you can buy it as a service https://sendy.co/

https://easysendy.com/

It uses mandrill and Amazon SES, both US services, both cannot be used by EU data owners.

[uber]

DonnyMac said:

It uses mandrill and Amazon SES, both US services, both cannot be used by EU data owners.

You can use it via Amazons European data centres

[DonnyMac]

Ah, good news.

If you use them, could you do a reverse IP look up and see where the IP address resolves to and post the results?

Many thanks.

[uber]

DonnyMac said:

Ah, good news.

If you use them, could you do a reverse IP look up and see where the IP address resolves to and post the results?

Many thanks.

Thats a bit to much effort but I can tell you its Holland. Have you heard of any Mailchip clients being perused yet?

[Frimley111R]

DonnyMac said:

jammy_basturd said:

In the same way I believe no one has been punished for the utterly stupid cookie law!

Now there's something we can agree on, the most ridiculous digital legislation they could have conceived of.

I 'liked' it for the irony of needing a cookie to implement it!