McDonald's franchise - good idea...?

McDonald's franchise - good idea...?

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Junior Bianno

1,400 posts

193 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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Not the case though - McDonald's still growing in the UK

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/oct/15/mc...

"Turnover for the group’s UK operation increased by £67.5m to £1.4bn"

E36GUY

5,906 posts

218 months

Tuesday 9th February 2016
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Yacht Broker said:
you will not believe how much investment they have put into their coffee to try and pull the rug from beneath starbucks, costa & co)
and yet it's still absolutely vile.

PurpleTurtle

6,972 posts

144 months

Tuesday 9th February 2016
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SirBlade said:
With fast food franchisees seeing a 9% decrease last year, now is not the time to get into that game.

Fast food consumers are fast twigging it that is is seriously unhealthy.

The McDonalds salad is a desperate attempt at countering that.

For McDonalds the damage to their reputation is terminal, the pink slime, the ammonia, as highlighted by Jamie, the jig is up for McDs.
not really covering themselves in glory there either!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3432613/Mc...

Jasandjules

69,866 posts

229 months

Tuesday 9th February 2016
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13m said:
It's worked. McDonalds coffee I've had recently has been far nicer than that from the coffee shops.
Yeah, their lattes are not too bad at all really.

bogie

16,376 posts

272 months

Tuesday 9th February 2016
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A blip in the food consumption will affect the franchise owners profits, but big M still owns all the buildings and collects the rent regardless. Selling burgers is just a way to fund them buying more prime real estate in all the top cities of the world

How its works: http://money.howstuffworks.com/mcdonalds2.htm

http://nrn.com/blog/why-mcdonalds-wont-ever-get-ri...

whatever you think about the food, you've got to admire the business model ...

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

224 months

Tuesday 9th February 2016
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Junior Bianno said:
Not the case though - McDonald's still growing in the UK

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/oct/15/mc...

"Turnover for the group’s UK operation increased by £67.5m to £1.4bn"
Unfortunately it doesn't say which particular restaurants are the most profitable. Presumably the tiny drive through in Cumbria on a hill can be grouped in with the site next to kings cross station.

Undirection

467 posts

121 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Spoke to my friend who is the Ops Mgr for a franchisee with a few outlets. He said 9 months unpaid training and guesstimated investment in the low to mid hundreds of thousands. Typically start with a high street outlet as they are smaller. Drive throughs are generally much much more lucrative but you wont get one initially. Their latest one is 1 mile away from another so plenty of room for more outlets.

veevee

1,455 posts

151 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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SirBlade said:
With fast food franchisees seeing a 9% decrease last year, now is not the time to get into that game.

Fast food consumers are fast twigging it that is is seriously unhealthy.

The McDonalds salad is a desperate attempt at countering that.

For McDonalds the damage to their reputation is terminal, the pink slime, the ammonia, as highlighted by Jamie, the jig is up for McDs.
This, McDonalds are going to end up like Blockbuster video (OK, not quite, but the same point being made). They need to take the opp. to seriously diversify, or spin parts of the business of, before it's too late. They have made some very weak attempts at McCafe, and putting a couple of token salads on the menu, not good enough IMO. Their food has been the exact same forever, and eating habits have started to change recently, I can see McDonalds outlets in 'nicer' towns start to become a lot quieter in the near future.

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

212 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Junior Bianno said:
Not the case though - McDonald's still growing in the UK

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/oct/15/mc...

"Turnover for the group’s UK operation increased by £67.5m to £1.4bn"
They might be still growing, but I imagine the rate of growth has been slowing for a few years now.

kev1974

4,029 posts

129 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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veevee said:
This, McDonalds are going to end up like Blockbuster video (OK, not quite, but the same point being made). They need to take the opp. to seriously diversify, or spin parts of the business of, before it's too late. They have made some very weak attempts at McCafe, and putting a couple of token salads on the menu, not good enough IMO. Their food has been the exact same forever, and eating habits have started to change recently, I can see McDonalds outlets in 'nicer' towns start to become a lot quieter in the near future.
It was in the papers the other week, they are about to start deliver-to-table service at a couple of hundred UK branches, and they've got their new double thick prestige burger range just coming out.


fridaypassion

8,553 posts

228 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Any franchise worth having these days will require multiple sites per franchisee as has long been the way with McDonald's and dominoes you can't just have "a" franchise.

The smart money would be jumping in early on a new franchise that has good potential. Our local subway opened over 20 years ago. That's the way to do it!

veevee

1,455 posts

151 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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kev1974 said:
It was in the papers the other week, they are about to start deliver-to-table service at a couple of hundred UK branches, and they've got their new double thick prestige burger range just coming out.
They used to bring food to your table when I was a kid, I still see them do it occasionally for people with kids, etc. Don't think that's much of a selling point though.

Menu needs an overhall, it's alright for kids, but not much more than a snack for grown ups.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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I'm being a snob, but it's not so much the food, it's the pond life that frequent the places that turn me off.


13m

26,271 posts

222 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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CoinSl0t said:
I'm being a snob, but it's not so much the food, it's the pond life that frequent the places that turn me off.
Not to mention the absence of linen napkins.


mcflurry

9,085 posts

253 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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13m said:
CoinSl0t said:
I'm being a snob, but it's not so much the food, it's the pond life that frequent the places that turn me off.
Not to mention the absence of linen napkins.
It would cost more than £5 for a burger, chips and a glass of Dom Perignon smile

Jasandjules

69,866 posts

229 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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CoinSl0t said:
I'm being a snob, but it's not so much the food, it's the pond life that frequent the places that turn me off.
That is what a drive through is for...

uk66fastback

16,514 posts

271 months

Tuesday 16th February 2016
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Is TGI's a franchise cos one in my city would clean up, nearest one is bloody MK ... An hour away. Daft.

Du1point8

21,606 posts

192 months

Tuesday 16th February 2016
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I always thought a Subway in Canary Wharf would clean up there, it has a vast amount of people that are stuck all day and even with multitude of options there would be no doubt it would be rammed all day.

Don

28,377 posts

284 months

Tuesday 16th February 2016
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I haven't eaten a McDogs in years. Every few years I eat one to remind myself why that is.

BUT

That's irrelevant. Have you seen how busy they are? Amazing. Obviously their clientele don't give a st about how healthy it is or anything else. They just crave the hit of sugar, fat and salt that is a McDog.

Clearly it is good business selling it to them...

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

224 months

Tuesday 16th February 2016
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uk66fastback said:
Is TGI's a franchise cos one in my city would clean up, nearest one is bloody MK ... An hour away. Daft.
It's nothing special and has no usp now. Ten years ago there was only TGI and Frankie and Bennys, now you can't move for choices.