LTD company and pensions...

LTD company and pensions...

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Jasandjules

Original Poster:

69,924 posts

230 months

Friday 22nd July 2016
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Can I assume that I am limited as to what I could purchase for a "company pension" i.e. could I buy a property for my pension?

andyb28

767 posts

119 months

Friday 22nd July 2016
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Only commercial premises

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Saturday 23rd July 2016
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You can hold land for residential purposes but IIRC it must be removed before any planning stage.

Remember you need to have the funds in the pension to buy the property in the first place. We required approx 50% then used a recycling method to fill up previous years of unused allowances.

If you intend operating a SSAS structure, PurpleMoonlight is very knowledgeable here.

Jasandjules

Original Poster:

69,924 posts

230 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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Does that mean I need to have sufficient cash to buy the place outright? Or just cover the mortgage payments?

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

158 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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The pension arrangement can only borrow up to 50% of it's value before the purchase. So if it's worth £100,000 you can borrow £50,000.

From a pension perspective you don't need to actually use the £100,000 for the purchase and could use just the £50,000 but lenders will have their own requirements meaning that you likely will have to use at least some, typically 70% LTV.

Lenders will want the rent to cover the mortgage repayments and likely a lease in place for the term of the loan.

Jasandjules

Original Poster:

69,924 posts

230 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Hmm. Not as easy as I had hoped (no surprise there I guess).

I am assuming I can't simply get a mortgage in my name, then assign the cost of the mortgage payments to myself as a pension?

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

158 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Correct, you can't.

Jasandjules

Original Poster:

69,924 posts

230 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Fiddlesticks.. Back to the drawing board then!


sideways sid

1,371 posts

216 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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You mention Ltd Co. If you have cash and/or borrowing capacity within your Ltd Co, that could buy the property. You might need to provide security &/or a personal guarantee if you are sole shareholder.

It is possible that the Ltd Co could in future contribute the property to your pension fund but you would need to take proper advice.

Jasandjules

Original Poster:

69,924 posts

230 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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I was thinking perhaps a personal guarantee on the mortgage with the company paying it as my pension.........

But there is not enough money in the company to buy a house outright.