How much is a grid connection worth?

How much is a grid connection worth?

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anonymous-user

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53 months

Wednesday 9th November 2016
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If I have a site that has a grid connection (for a wind turbine, Anaerobic Digester or similar, but bigger), what sort of value would that connection add to the site?

I found a hint of 24MW connected site for sale on Daltons, but the link didn't come up with the listing

cashmax

1,099 posts

239 months

Wednesday 9th November 2016
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In some cases a grid connection (for a data centre for example) might cost well into 7 figures. It really depends if the site has development potential in an industry that look for power first and location second.

anonymous-user

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53 months

Wednesday 9th November 2016
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I was thinking of a connection the other way, to supply electricity into the grid.

A chunky amount 10+MW

sleepezy

1,779 posts

233 months

Saturday 12th November 2016
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Does the site itself have any grandfathered benefits too? I looked after a 15MWHr site recently that was worth some surprisingly large numbers but that also benefited from double ROCs.

Any decent land agent will be able to provide some comparatives for you.

pghstochaj

2,400 posts

118 months

Saturday 12th November 2016
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Could be worthless, could be worth a lot. Just finished a 45 MVA connection at £4 million but have also done a 31.5 MVA at £1.4 million. It depends if you can get planning for the site. Feel free to pm me -I'm a consultant engineer in the renewable power sector.

anonymous-user

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53 months

Sunday 13th November 2016
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I should know a bit more by the end of Tuesday and might have a clearer / more specific idea then

anonymous-user

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53 months

Friday 25th November 2016
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£1m per MW is the figure being bandied about just now

By the seller's agent....

pghstochaj

2,400 posts

118 months

Saturday 26th November 2016
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That's somebody who doesn't understand grid connections. Does the site have planning and permitting for anything?

pghstochaj

2,400 posts

118 months

Saturday 26th November 2016
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anonymous-user

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53 months

Saturday 26th November 2016
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It isn't that one, but ithat s the ad I had seen a link to previously but couldn't find - so thanks for finding it!

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 26th November 12:08

pghstochaj

2,400 posts

118 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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JPJPJP said:
It isn't that one, but ithat s the ad I had seen a link to previously but couldn't find - so thanks for finding it!

Edited by JPJPJP on Saturday 26th November 12:08
The problem is that there's no need for energy from waste there as there are 5 lines at the Sita plant and Wilton 11 has another two lines, again for Sita. There were projects at the docks for virgin/waste wood but now ROCS are gone they aren't affordable. The development will probably become affordable in a few years but not now.

anonymous-user

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53 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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Any thoughts on the ebioss energy china deal covering derwenthaugh & hull?

http://renewables.seenews.com/news/bulgarias-ebios...

pghstochaj

2,400 posts

118 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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It's gasification which is still a high risk technology and the efficiencies stated are not achievable in my opinion.

There are four EPC contractors which can deliver a project of this type in the uk with a proven track record and they're not on the list.

Did you have anything specific on it you wanted to know?

anonymous-user

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53 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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Is much known about Energy China's capacity to complete such projects as EPC Contractor?

I have no doubt about its ability to fund such projects if it is so minded, whatever the risks of the technology actually working.


pghstochaj

2,400 posts

118 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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There are numerous projects using gasification which have already failed/had serious problems. Air products, Scotgen and Energos are perfect examples. Energos was always seen as "ok" and probably the best supplier, but it is no longer in business. If you want a technical due diligence or market review of small renewable plants then my company would be happy to help smile

anonymous-user

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53 months

Saturday 3rd December 2016
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pghstochaj said:
There are numerous projects using gasification which have already failed/had serious problems. Air products, Scotgen and Energos are perfect examples. Energos was always seen as "ok" and probably the best supplier, but it is no longer in business. If you want a technical due diligence or market review of small renewable plants then my company would be happy to help smile
Yes I had a look at enegos minden a while back

I suppose the question here is can ebioss & china energy make it work before china energy has had enough of funding it. It is, after all, a bit r&d as well as a bit build. Interesting times for those involved.