Soft Play Facility Set Up

Soft Play Facility Set Up

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muppetdave

2,118 posts

225 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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We live outside of Colchester, and there are a number there. I've only been to one of the main ones, but my wife says that's the preferred one out of three in the town, there are also a couple in Clacton. Funny someone should mention it, but the one in question is in an old Focus building, been going about five years.

In our eyes they do really seem to get it right. Pricing is circa £5 for our five year old. Slightly less for the little one I think. Parents don't pay.

Food and drink is where they really seem to have majored as others suggest; good quality 'home made' dishes - they claim it's all home made and I'm reasonably inclined to believe them. Their 'pizzas' are on pitta bread as one example. The food seems to be pretty natural, and is all cooked/made to order. It's certainly no hardship to eat there either as an adult or a kid (I had a really nice coronation chicken sandwich the other week). They seem to do pretty much everything; breakfasts, sandwiches, 'light bites', meals (spag bol etc.), jacket potatoes, pancakes, sundaes and 'home-baked' cakes and tray-bakes for both kid and adult portions. They also have a range of weaning foods for the really small people. The tea is from tea pigs, and coffee is Illy.

In terms of the kit, they have a toddler's area, the main play area, and then a football court, trampoline bit and a small climbing wall.

There's a number of rooms for private parties, but they also accommodate groups in the main seating area.

Certainly at weekends and in the holidays, the place is buzzing. But to be fair, it does seem to tick over nicely on 'normal' weekdays when #1 was a bit younger and we've visited. I believe they do host various kids groups in the day time as well.

ashley95

77 posts

115 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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There's one somewhere near me that does adults only evenings once a week. Portsmouth i think. They sell alcohol there on these evenings so it becomes good fun for the grown ups too..

Think they do birthday parties/stag and hen do type things for adults as well

BoRED S2upid

19,683 posts

240 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Interesting how you thought this type of business must be a gold mine as with a 3 year old I've had to take him to loads of these things and I've always thought the opposite. A few reasons why and talking from experience here not out of my arse: heating they are usually in big uninsulated buildings that are difficult to heat and keep warm likewise electricity for lighting and your food set up it's not as if your hours are defined like in a restaurant where you can predict busy periods your going to be open early and close late all the time heating and lighting a massive warehouse. Next massive cost is staff your going to need plenty your insurance will require it you can't have one doing admissions and something else admissions is full time then kitchen staff, cooks, waitresses etc... then the staff just supervising the kids so no fights break out of someone takes a dump in the ball pit! Staff are expensive. Add to this cleaning which you can't scrimp on as kids are sick, snotty, stting creatures who won't give a toss about your equipment. A money pit for 5/7 days if you ask me.

But hey good luck if you fancy taking the plunge.

Wills82

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69 posts

180 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Maybe something for the dads out there. A Sky Sports room for when the dads are dragged off during the football game or the F1 race!! Give a little something back!!

BigBen

11,634 posts

230 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Mrs BigBen has recently opened one, it has been going 2 months.

There are some good points made above but the one I would stress is heating a high ceilinged warehous costs loads.

If you are serious you are welcome to come and visit and have a chat, we are just outside Cambridge. So far I wouldn't be making any claims of it being a goldmine and indeed I don't think it would be possible to say until she has 12 months trading under her belt.

Ben


Wills82

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69 posts

180 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Thanks a lot Ben. Initially just doing the math and looking into it as a possible. Nothing decided yet as to whether i'll give this the go ahead or not.

If I do, I would certainly be grateful of a visit and a chat, hearing it from the tough end is exactly what we'd need!

Thanks a lot everyone, for good insight and lots to think about.


Mr Overheads

2,439 posts

176 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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heating keeps getting mentioned. The 2 I've been to recently were both clearly unheated or barely heated. Parents kept their coats on and kids were running about so didn't need it.

Professional hat off: Just use old fashioned hi-bay bulbs that kick out loads of heat instead of LED's and have underfloor heating under the area where parents sit and then a couple of fan blast heaters for those days where it's so cold you need to take the edge off. The one we went to this weekend had a bouncy castle and the fan for that was pointing towards the play area so that probably helped heat it too and the open kitchen. Couldn't see a single radiator except in the low ceiling sectioned off party rooms.

Bonkers idea that might work: The relatively new flooring that generates energy for high traffic areas, put that under the ground floor of the softplay zone and it will contribute too.

SlidingSideways

1,345 posts

232 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Heating - Every time I've been (last time was yesterday, so not just mid-summer) our local place was like a sauna. The little tearaways seem to generate plenty of heat to keep the place toasty!!

BigBen

11,634 posts

230 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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anonymous said:
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To back this up almost all of the market research done prior to opening suggested that decent coffee and food were the most important things, along with WiFi. Almost nobody mentioned the play area actually being any good for kids.


Frimley111R

15,615 posts

234 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Have a search on here, I am sure I had a thread running on this a while back which may help too.

Dermot O'Logical

2,574 posts

129 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Remember: Turnover and profit are two separate things.

Heating, staffing and regulatory requirements will be your biggest ongoing issues, even if you can find a suitable unit with adequate parking. Memberships are an excellent idea to bring cash in during the quiet summer months. Employ staff on zero-hours contracts, as you can't afford to have them hanging around doing nothing when the place is quiet. All staff will require the appropriate levels of CRB clearance, and food handling certification, so there will be costs and delays in recruitment.

And there's always the danger of somebody else opening up and doing the same thing, but better (or just differently) just up the road.


768

13,657 posts

96 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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I've thought about this a bit too.

Around us there's a big warehouse one at least half an hour away and I did think the running costs must be huge. Parties at the weekends seem to draw a lot in.

There's a much smaller one maybe 20 minutes away which has some random animals for the kids to look at in a separate area and a terrible coffee shop. Caters mostly for preschool age kids. There's some outside space, some inside space but really not much to it. It seems to have a much more consistent throughput of people and people pay for passes over a longer period of time. Probably less risk involved.

Just not sure I could be bothered!

Kermit power

28,641 posts

213 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Hoofy said:
hehe Yeah, that's a possibility; depends how much space is taken up by the softplay stuff as some of that might have a weight restriction eg netting and rope bridges designed for under 10s.
I doubt that... Most of it seems to be made out of scaffolding poles and industrial strength cargo netting!

Certainly when my kids were young enough for Softplay, I never had any concerns going after them (other than "oh fk, I'm going to get stuck!! hehe ) and, believe it or not, I'm slightly heavier than a 10yr old! paperbag

BoRED S2upid

19,683 posts

240 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Kermit power said:
I doubt that... Most of it seems to be made out of scaffolding poles and industrial strength cargo netting!

Certainly when my kids were young enough for Softplay, I never had any concerns going after them (other than "oh fk, I'm going to get stuck!! hehe ) and, believe it or not, I'm slightly heavier than a 10yr old! paperbag
I have to go after him (honestly) especially down the massive slides racing the other dads wink

Hoofy

76,341 posts

282 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Kermit power said:
Hoofy said:
hehe Yeah, that's a possibility; depends how much space is taken up by the softplay stuff as some of that might have a weight restriction eg netting and rope bridges designed for under 10s.
I doubt that... Most of it seems to be made out of scaffolding poles and industrial strength cargo netting!

Certainly when my kids were young enough for Softplay, I never had any concerns going after them (other than "oh fk, I'm going to get stuck!! hehe ) and, believe it or not, I'm slightly heavier than a 10yr old! paperbag
Oh, right.

hehe

Just that one website I checked the other day, they were saying the equipment was strictly limited to under 10s in terms of weight.

eltawater

3,112 posts

179 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Hoofy said:
Oh, right.

hehe

Just that one website I checked the other day, they were saying the equipment was strictly limited to under 10s in terms of weight.
Which is utter nonsense, as any parent of a toddler will tell you. They invariably manage to climb up high before running out of talent, start bawling their eyes out and require the parent to climb up and rescue them. Typically via the big slides. What? They're the fastest route down....

RJD223

251 posts

195 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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BigBen said:
Mrs BigBen has recently opened one, it has been going 2 months.

There are some good points made above but the one I would stress is heating a high ceilinged warehous costs loads.

If you are serious you are welcome to come and visit and have a chat, we are just outside Cambridge. So far I wouldn't be making any claims of it being a goldmine and indeed I don't think it would be possible to say until she has 12 months trading under her belt.

Ben
Hi Ben,

Have you got anti-stratification fans installed? If not you need to do it - this is what'll be costing you a fortune!

See here: http://www.airius.co.uk

Not affiliated by the way! We use them all the time for our A/C installations.

Rick.

Trabi601

4,865 posts

95 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Wills82 said:
I like the idea of a recognised coffee brand,
Do not underestimate just how hard it is to get one of these on board!

We work with one of the biggest. They are very protective of their brand identity and reputation and have some very strict criteria regarding where with who they'll do business.

I asked them to look at a newbuild drive-through operation on one of my client's forecourts - the answer was 'we are not looking to expand our portfolio at this time'.

Even getting a takeaway machine is tricky if you don't have the correct brand image for them.

I'll just add this, too - one of the many retail roles I've had over the years saw me overseeing the creche for a large supermarket chain. The one who used Clarkson for their voiceover back in the day. We had a soft play area, games consoles and toys. We needed childcare qualified staff, I recall the creche manager needed a higher level qualification. Child to assistant ratios were heavily controlled. Some of this may or may not apply, as parents are technically 'supervising'. However... the business closed all the creches, as they were costing each store tens of thousands a year to run. And that's with a captive audience and chargeable entry.

Edited by Trabi601 on Monday 16th January 20:05

Hoofy

76,341 posts

282 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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eltawater said:
Hoofy said:
Oh, right.

hehe

Just that one website I checked the other day, they were saying the equipment was strictly limited to under 10s in terms of weight.
Which is utter nonsense, as any parent of a toddler will tell you. They invariably manage to climb up high before running out of talent, start bawling their eyes out and require the parent to climb up and rescue them. Typically via the big slides. What? They're the fastest route down....
biggrin Fair enough. More scope for evening use. Bondage dens!!

BigBen

11,634 posts

230 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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RJD223 said:
BigBen said:
Mrs BigBen has recently opened one, it has been going 2 months.

There are some good points made above but the one I would stress is heating a high ceilinged warehous costs loads.

If you are serious you are welcome to come and visit and have a chat, we are just outside Cambridge. So far I wouldn't be making any claims of it being a goldmine and indeed I don't think it would be possible to say until she has 12 months trading under her belt.

Ben
Hi Ben,

Have you got anti-stratification fans installed? If not you need to do it - this is what'll be costing you a fortune!

See here: http://www.airius.co.uk

Not affiliated by the way! We use them all the time for our A/C installations.

Rick.
Thank you, I have one but haven't installed it yet, mainly as I have not quite figured out how to get high enough into the roof! I have an ebay watch for similar ones to fit more.

I can tell you are right because it is plenty warm enough on the top level of the frame......