New business advice please - Farm Shop
Discussion
jonsp said:
Upinflames said:
Across the road they sell a jar of pickled onions for £11 and a steak pie for £15. It's not costcutter!
No but 30 mins in the oven some veg on the side and that's dinner for 2 sorted - presumably it is a nice steak pie. Their customers are prepared to pay 3x the price of a supermarket steak pie. Could you offer an organic steak pie to compete with that at approx the same price point? I'm guessing not, there's no such thing as an organic steak pie.Seems you're looking to totally different customers. They want people who are prepared to pay for nice/quick and don't care about organic. You're looking for customers who'd be more likely to cook from scratch and do care about organic.
https://www.organicbutchery.co.uk/buy/steak-and-al...
You're going to need (in no particular order)
- Employers and public liability insurance
- Health and safety equipment, first aid kits, fire extinguisher etc
- Staff - easy to find through sites like Indeed, £11.50 /hr is your starting point realistically now
- Staff welfare facilities - toilets and a kitchen area
- Signage, both to promote the shop and to direct people where to be
- Stock
- Till / POS system and Card machines
- Internet connection to the shop area for the above
- Shop fixtures, shelves, bins, baskets
- Facilities for getting rid of commercial waste, boxes, spoiled food etc
- Someone to manage social media - this will help you find and engage with local customers
Once you're open, be prepared to sit there and have literally no one turn up. It takes a while for people to find you, even with advertising and signage.
- Employers and public liability insurance
- Health and safety equipment, first aid kits, fire extinguisher etc
- Staff - easy to find through sites like Indeed, £11.50 /hr is your starting point realistically now
- Staff welfare facilities - toilets and a kitchen area
- Signage, both to promote the shop and to direct people where to be
- Stock
- Till / POS system and Card machines
- Internet connection to the shop area for the above
- Shop fixtures, shelves, bins, baskets
- Facilities for getting rid of commercial waste, boxes, spoiled food etc
- Someone to manage social media - this will help you find and engage with local customers
Once you're open, be prepared to sit there and have literally no one turn up. It takes a while for people to find you, even with advertising and signage.
Dr Interceptor said:
You're going to need (in no particular order)
- Employers and public liability insurance
- Health and safety equipment, first aid kits, fire extinguisher etc
- Staff - easy to find through sites like Indeed, £11.50 /hr is your starting point realistically now
- Staff welfare facilities - toilets and a kitchen area
- Signage, both to promote the shop and to direct people where to be
- Stock
- Till / POS system and Card machines
- Internet connection to the shop area for the above
- Shop fixtures, shelves, bins, baskets
- Facilities for getting rid of commercial waste, boxes, spoiled food etc
- Someone to manage social media - this will help you find and engage with local customers
Once you're open, be prepared to sit there and have literally no one turn up. It takes a while for people to find you, even with advertising and signage.
Got most of that for the livery yard. Shopfittings, a till and stock really, that's all. - Employers and public liability insurance
- Health and safety equipment, first aid kits, fire extinguisher etc
- Staff - easy to find through sites like Indeed, £11.50 /hr is your starting point realistically now
- Staff welfare facilities - toilets and a kitchen area
- Signage, both to promote the shop and to direct people where to be
- Stock
- Till / POS system and Card machines
- Internet connection to the shop area for the above
- Shop fixtures, shelves, bins, baskets
- Facilities for getting rid of commercial waste, boxes, spoiled food etc
- Someone to manage social media - this will help you find and engage with local customers
Once you're open, be prepared to sit there and have literally no one turn up. It takes a while for people to find you, even with advertising and signage.
Upinflames said:
Sheepshanks said:
I think you can worry too much - just get on and do it, it'll sort itself out. Probably.
The shop your wife goes to could easily be the one across the road, sounds exactly the same!It's this one (well, I say one, they've got three of 'em now): https://www.theholliesfarmshop.co.uk
The coffee shop thing mentioned is interesting - they've backed off on that, I can only assume as retail space makes more money, and probably people were staying for hours and hogging car park space.
eliot said:
so to be clear, you want to setup a 4sq-mt shop opposite what is presumably a few hundred sq-mt shop with 6 tills and parking for 50 cars and you think it will be successful?
Pistonheads never disappoints: the first response is a smartarse comment that adds minimal value whatsoever to the discussion. If you have a useful insight try being helpful and constructive rather than adopt such a tone.
Why do people behave like this?
rlg43p said:
eliot said:
so to be clear, you want to setup a 4sq-mt shop opposite what is presumably a few hundred sq-mt shop with 6 tills and parking for 50 cars and you think it will be successful?
Pistonheads never disappoints: the first response is a smartarse comment that adds minimal value whatsoever to the discussion. If you have a useful insight try being helpful and constructive rather than adopt such a tone.
Why do people behave like this?
Hammersia said:
Can't see anything wrong with that comment, and it's a forum designed for comments.
But why do so may people feel compelled to comment in such a smug smartarse why. Why not try and make a contructive and helpful comment rather than behave that way?This place is full of smug know-it-alls.
rlg43p said:
Hammersia said:
Can't see anything wrong with that comment, and it's a forum designed for comments.
But why do so may people feel compelled to comment in such a smug smartarse why. Why not try and make a contructive and helpful comment rather than behave that way?This place is full of smug know-it-alls.
So there's that.
It would basically just cost a day of your time to try it out. Go to waitrose buy a bunch of fancy veg. Put it on a table. Stick a sign up.
Of course you will probably annoy a handful of people, which does matter as reputation comes into play longer term. But the value is clear net positive I think - you would learn a lot from that one day, perhaps enough to extrapolate what space you need.
It's common to set up a market stall to test out shop products.
Of course you will probably annoy a handful of people, which does matter as reputation comes into play longer term. But the value is clear net positive I think - you would learn a lot from that one day, perhaps enough to extrapolate what space you need.
It's common to set up a market stall to test out shop products.
lizardbrain said:
It would basically just cost a day of your time to try it out. Go to waitrose buy a bunch of fancy veg. Put it on a table. Stick a sign up.
Of course you will probably annoy a handful of people, which does matter as reputation comes into play longer term. But the value is clear net positive I think - you would learn a lot from that one day, perhaps enough to extrapolate what space you need.
It's common to set up a market stall to test out shop products.
One of the best comments I've had. Thank youOf course you will probably annoy a handful of people, which does matter as reputation comes into play longer term. But the value is clear net positive I think - you would learn a lot from that one day, perhaps enough to extrapolate what space you need.
It's common to set up a market stall to test out shop products.
rlg43p said:
But why do so may people feel compelled to comment in such a smug smartarse why. Why not try and make a contructive and helpful comment rather than behave that way?
This place is full of smug know-it-alls.
Neither of your comments on this thread have anything to do with the subject, so fails your own standard.This place is full of smug know-it-alls.
I think the OP should try a limited set up for a long weekend and see if it is viable.
MustangGT said:
Neither of your comments on this thread have anything to do with the subject, so fails your own standard.
I think the OP should try a limited set up for a long weekend and see if it is viable.
I don't want to turn this into a moaning about smart arses thread, I'm quite capable of ignoring them!I think the OP should try a limited set up for a long weekend and see if it is viable.
I am thinking along these lines, maybe a 'Farmer's Market Weekend'.
The building is empty anyway, I've got plenty of car parking space and I can put any fresh stuff not sold through the juicer and freeze it.
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