More Sage pain

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smartie

2,604 posts

274 months

Tuesday 24th July 2007
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misc income? 4900 ish

Red V8

873 posts

228 months

Wednesday 25th July 2007
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Look for 8222

The Griffalo

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72,857 posts

240 months

Wednesday 25th July 2007
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I've not got an 8222... Surely there's an inbuilt category for bank account interest earned or do they automatically assume most companies run in debt? hehe

The Griffalo

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72,857 posts

240 months

Tuesday 4th September 2007
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Me again paperbag

How do I pay myself a dividend in Sage? bounce

Eric Mc

122,071 posts

266 months

Tuesday 4th September 2007
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I presume you mean - "where should I post the dividend cheque payment in Sage"?

If that IS what you mean, using the "Bank Payments" module, allocate the payment to a Nominal Ledger heading called "Dividends" and give it a code similar to where your Sage system has its "Drawings" code.

Please note, as a limited company, you should never post anything directly to "Drawings" - it is not a normal heading in company accounts.

Also, I presume you have ascertained that your company CAN pay you a dividend (there are a number of criteria the company has to meet before a dividend payment can be legally made).

The Griffalo

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72,857 posts

240 months

Tuesday 4th September 2007
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Err, nope paperbag

What are the criteria?

Eric Mc

122,071 posts

266 months

Tuesday 4th September 2007
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The main one is that the company has sufficient reserves to support a dividend payment i.e. that the company is solvent.

In addition it is important that there is documentary evidence (i.e a minute) that the directors of the company have agreed the dividend.

It shouldalso be ensured that the correct dividend vouchers showing the required information are distributed to the recipients of the dividend.

The Griffalo

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72,857 posts

240 months

Tuesday 4th September 2007
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Check on all the above smile

You know what I'm gonna ask next though.....

What's a dividend voucher? paperbag

Edited to add:

Is this the right way to do it?

http://www.sage.ie/kbase/viewarticle.asp?pubnum='W...

Edited by The Griffalo on Tuesday 4th September 16:39

Eric Mc

122,071 posts

266 months

Tuesday 4th September 2007
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No. That is Sage's suggested method of posting dividend entries.

The voucher is essentially a piece of paper outlining the details of the dividend being paid. Thay are actually required by law and should always be printed out. If you have ever received a dividend from a British PLC you will have seen an example.

The vouchers needs to contain:

The name and address of the company
Its company number
The Net Value of the dividend
The associated Tax Credit
The date of the dividend
The dividend expressed on a "Dividend per share" basis
The name and address of the recipient

The Griffalo

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72,857 posts

240 months

Tuesday 11th September 2007
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Me again redface

How do I work out the tax credit amount?

Eric Mc

122,071 posts

266 months

Tuesday 11th September 2007
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From a Sage point of view you don't have to. All you need to do is post the actual amount that the copmpany is going to pay to you and the other shareholders.

On the dividend voucher, the tax credit MUST be shown.
The tax credit represents 10% of the GROSS tax inclusive value of the dividend.
Therefore, the dividend actually paid represents 90% of the full value of the dividend.

To work out the tax credit, multiply the net amount paid by 10/9. This gives you the Gross Dividend. The difference between the Gross Dividend and the Net Dividend is the Tax Credit value.

Example:

Net Dividend - £10,000

Gross Dividend - £10,000 x 10/9 = £11,111.11

Tax Credit - £1,111.11 (i.e. £11,111.11 minus £10,000.00)

When entering the dividend on your personal Self Assessment Tax Return, you must enter ALL THREE VALUES in the relevant boxes.

Edited by Eric Mc on Tuesday 11th September 10:33

The Griffalo

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72,857 posts

240 months

Tuesday 11th September 2007
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Thanks once again Eric, that was exactly what I needed to know biggrin

escargot

17,110 posts

218 months

Tuesday 11th September 2007
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Right, now you've finished messing about showing off with your dividends Rob, get your arse over to my thread in the computers section and help me out! tongue out

TheGriffalo

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72,857 posts

240 months

Wednesday 5th December 2007
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Woohoo, it's the end of my first financial year bounce

Can I just carry on entering stuff in Sage as normal until I see my accountant or do I need to do anything special as it's year end?

smartie

2,604 posts

274 months

Wednesday 5th December 2007
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just carry on though the message about wrong year that pops up all the time will annoy you (and make you see your accountant sooner!)

TheGriffalo

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72,857 posts

240 months

Wednesday 5th December 2007
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Thanks thumbup

Just trying to arrange a meeting right now.

TheGriffalo

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240 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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Ahem, sorry folks... Me again paperbag

What am I supposed to do when I receive a cash payment (all VAT invoiced and everything) Does it have to go through the bank? It was only £11.75 but of course I can't reconcile my Sage... Do I have to pay it into the bank out of my own pocket?


Eric Mc

122,071 posts

266 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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If you set your "Cash Account" up as another "Bank Account", you should be able to clear the invoice in the same way you would by putting through a normal bank entry.

Alternatively, you could clear the outstanding amount by entering a Dummy Crtedit Note and making sure that

a) the dummy Credit Note is given a T9 VAT Code and

b) the Dummy Credit Note is given the Cash Account Nominal Code.

TheGriffalo

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72,857 posts

240 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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Ah, the "cash account"... I hadn't noticed that paperbag

What's it's purpose? Sorry if that's a daft question but my head hurts redface

Eric Mc

122,071 posts

266 months

Tuesday 11th December 2007
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It's there to take care of items paid for by cash.