Reporting someone for tax fraud?
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Dave
i think if you dont have a problem with the guy then let whatever will be to be.
I take it that looking at your topics that you have started that you are considering the purchase of a PS3 from America.
If you have such apparent high morals I take it you would be perfectly happy for someone to tip off Customs at Heathrow that you will be bringing it back and therefore happy to pay your VAT and fine????
What comes round goes round....
I think you may well find its just talk and he perhaps senses your anger at him and therefore he could well be goading you?
i think if you dont have a problem with the guy then let whatever will be to be.
I take it that looking at your topics that you have started that you are considering the purchase of a PS3 from America.
If you have such apparent high morals I take it you would be perfectly happy for someone to tip off Customs at Heathrow that you will be bringing it back and therefore happy to pay your VAT and fine????
What comes round goes round....
I think you may well find its just talk and he perhaps senses your anger at him and therefore he could well be goading you?
2 SHAN, a bit petty perhaps? You start browsing posts by me just to make a point? It is my brother that is going to buy the PS3, Im off to the Maldives instead next year thank you.
Do I see a difference morally? Yes tbh, theres not declaring something you bought on holiday and then there is the deliberate defrauding of £000's. If you dont agree then, nevermind!
I think I'll just leave this thread now and avoid the more righteous-than-thou crowd
Do I see a difference morally? Yes tbh, theres not declaring something you bought on holiday and then there is the deliberate defrauding of £000's. If you dont agree then, nevermind!
I think I'll just leave this thread now and avoid the more righteous-than-thou crowd
Edited by _daveR on Sunday 2nd December 09:22
Dave... you were the one that asked the question on an open forum then say that you are leaving it to quote…”avoid the more righteous-than-thou crowd’
Ummmm sorry but I thought you were the righteous one who was looking to report this chap for evading tax????
As Eric says fraud is fraud, whether its you or your brother bring a PS3 back from the States or someone not declaring their personal usage in a company car.
At no point did I say I didn’t agree that the chap may be breaking the law but at the same time you can’t pick and choose which laws you want to be righteous about and the ones you wish to ignore???
So if you want to leave the topic now then feel free but if all you wanted to do was report this chap and not go on a public forum? Then all you had to do was use Google and type in “inland revenue reporting fraud”
Hope I haven’t offended you Dave?
I was merely saying what my perspective on the situation was.
Ummmm sorry but I thought you were the righteous one who was looking to report this chap for evading tax????
As Eric says fraud is fraud, whether its you or your brother bring a PS3 back from the States or someone not declaring their personal usage in a company car.
At no point did I say I didn’t agree that the chap may be breaking the law but at the same time you can’t pick and choose which laws you want to be righteous about and the ones you wish to ignore???
So if you want to leave the topic now then feel free but if all you wanted to do was report this chap and not go on a public forum? Then all you had to do was use Google and type in “inland revenue reporting fraud”
Hope I haven’t offended you Dave?
I was merely saying what my perspective on the situation was.
_daveR said:
Ive tried to get as much info from him as I can without making my intentions obvious.
From what he has said, it was his accountant (who's name I do not have unfortunately) who has suggested this and told him that if it got investigated his own company would be in the clear. His accountant is also a non UK national so I am guessing has the same morals/intentions as the guy I want to report.
If he's got an accountant and is running as a Ltd company, he'll be filing accounts at Compnaies House. You can access them online and they'll have his accountants details on them, so that will give you a bit of the picture.From what he has said, it was his accountant (who's name I do not have unfortunately) who has suggested this and told him that if it got investigated his own company would be in the clear. His accountant is also a non UK national so I am guessing has the same morals/intentions as the guy I want to report.
I know what you mean. I've worked with a few people like this. Amazingly they are stupid enough to tell everyone what they're upto, as if it's clever!
Eric Mc said:
Fraud is fraud.
Only the scale differs.
In fact, under Proceeds of Crime Regulations, the authorities do not take scale into account.
I am reluctant to start reporting people left right and centre - although, as an accountant, I am enforced by law to do so in certain circumstances.
Where does the law draw teh boundary? We can ask for tax avoidance help, but presumably we'll only get shopped if we get involved with tax evasion, as oppossed to asking about it?Only the scale differs.
In fact, under Proceeds of Crime Regulations, the authorities do not take scale into account.
I am reluctant to start reporting people left right and centre - although, as an accountant, I am enforced by law to do so in certain circumstances.
Tax avoidance is NEVER illegal - although that does not mean that the Revenue will allow a particular tax avoidance scheme or technique to be used.
Tax EVASION is ALWAYS illegal and does constitute a criminal offence, It now contravenes tax law, the Proceeds of Crime Act and possibly Money Laundering Regulations.
Depending on the nature and sophistication of a Tax Avoidance scheme, it can cross the boundary into Tax Evasion. At the very margins, the dividing line between legal and illegal can be fine and sometimes it will take a court case to decide whether a scheme breaks the law or not.
Tax EVASION is ALWAYS illegal and does constitute a criminal offence, It now contravenes tax law, the Proceeds of Crime Act and possibly Money Laundering Regulations.
Depending on the nature and sophistication of a Tax Avoidance scheme, it can cross the boundary into Tax Evasion. At the very margins, the dividing line between legal and illegal can be fine and sometimes it will take a court case to decide whether a scheme breaks the law or not.
Edited by Eric Mc on Monday 3rd December 08:12
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