Late Paying Customers

Late Paying Customers

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SystemParanoia

Original Poster:

14,343 posts

199 months

Tuesday 12th August 2008
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Any tips on getting them to pay up quicker?

currently got a customer that has totally ruined my cashflow atm due to late/non payment

Slurms

1,252 posts

205 months

Tuesday 12th August 2008
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County Court letters normally get a response..

gti-ted

1,025 posts

210 months

Tuesday 12th August 2008
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Are they within a reasonable driving distance. I would call them informing them that you will be passing through there area within the next few days and call in to see them for payment.
It worked for me in the past as nobody wants an irate debter on the door.
Good luck bud.

SystemParanoia

Original Poster:

14,343 posts

199 months

Tuesday 12th August 2008
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thx guys.

if all else fails, ill just tell my staff who's got their wages lol

jamesuk28

2,176 posts

254 months

Tuesday 12th August 2008
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http://www.letterbeforeaction.co.uk/ discounts to PH'ers and or account work. For the avoidance of doubt this is my company, so a plug.

SystemParanoia

Original Poster:

14,343 posts

199 months

Tuesday 12th August 2008
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BOOKMARKED!

ginettag27

6,297 posts

270 months

Tuesday 12th August 2008
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There was another thread about this, there is a legal support to getting paid, otherwise you can add charges. Of course if they won't pay the first invoice, then another one with penalty charges probably won't get paid either...

We have explicit payment terms on our invoices, a quick phone call or email to offer some help (and I do mean help!) usually gets payment. How about offering to split up the invoice into convenient payable amounts?

Actually thinking about it, check (if possible) they're doing well enough to pay... It may be that they aren't able to pay up..

How long is it since you gave them an invoice?

see here for blurb : http://www.payontime.co.uk/legislation/late_paymen...


SystemParanoia

Original Poster:

14,343 posts

199 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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ohhh they're making enough to pay me.

been promised payment by chaps to clear today so gonna check the bank later.

its a charity

don't normally do invoice's its normally payment upfront, but thought id make an exception for these guys... ( we i wanted the work, and theres LOTs of it! )

i distribute the charity clothes collection bags for them, ive had reports on how every days collection has gone so far, i.e " we've had over a tonne and a half today mate.. fantastic"

if payment doesn't clear, i don't want to burn my bridges with them, as the contract is worth nearly £100,000 p/a, which is the vast bulk of my turnover.

CR0X

1,841 posts

200 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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Our procedure, for debts from anywhere of £1000 to £200K a month is:

call from accounts when account is 7 days overdue
call from sales rep when account is 14 days overdue - account on stop
letter from solicitors (Lovetts - very good and costs are very, very reasonable) follows at 21 days I think.

Normally we get paid within the time frame above without court action needed. In truth, I can't remember the last time we took someone to court.

Edited by CR0X on Wednesday 13th August 08:27

Dave_ST220

10,294 posts

206 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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We just quote "Late Payment of Commercial Debts (Interest) Act 1998" on anything over 30 days, worked 100% so far.............

stuart-b

3,643 posts

227 months

Sunday 17th August 2008
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Offer a 2% reduction in the invoice for instant settlement. Then add it on the next bill.

The FD's usually always go for this, as it saves them quite a bit (or so they like to believe).

timskipper

1,297 posts

267 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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Dave_ST220 said:
We just quote "Late Payment of Commercial Debts (Interest) Act 1998" on anything over 30 days
Same here, then follow it up with these guys if that doesn't do the trick. http://www.thomas-higgins.co.uk/index.html

jamesuk28

2,176 posts

254 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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The problem with T Higgins is everybody knows they send out letters for £2, ie the effect is not what it use to be. In addition there are no phonecalls included to either creditor or debtor, no bespoke letter produced dependant on the exact debt circumstances, and no free follow up letters if required.

You get what you pay for.

stuart-b

3,643 posts

227 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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timskipper said:
Dave_ST220 said:
We just quote "Late Payment of Commercial Debts (Interest) Act 1998" on anything over 30 days
Same here, then follow it up with these guys if that doesn't do the trick. http://www.thomas-higgins.co.uk/index.html
If they are your biggest client, don't go upsetting them by demanding money via debt collection agencies. You'll be dumped, in favour of a new supplier.

Best thing is to arrange a meeting with a top bod. Discuss the issue and offer a 2% early settlement fee for future invoices. Make sure you build this in, but it will give them an incentive to put you at the top of their creditor list.

Going in all guns blazing is fine for a small customer, or if you have lots and lots! But the chap has just stated that this is a majority of his income. £2 letters, demanding money - will make you end up bankrupt in a short time!

StevieBee

12,925 posts

256 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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[quote=SystemParanoia

its a charity


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If they are a registered charity, i.e, they have a charity number, then get in touch with the Charity Commission first. They have the power to suspend a charity's activities if it deems their actions to be contrary to the charity charter, non payment of debts being one such example.


timskipper

1,297 posts

267 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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jamesuk28 said:
The problem with T Higgins is everybody knows they send out letters for £2, ie the effect is not what it use to be. In addition there are no phonecalls included to either creditor or debtor, no bespoke letter produced dependant on the exact debt circumstances, and no free follow up letters if required.

You get what you pay for.
I'm sure "everybody" doesn't. And the net result of a letter, be it £2 or £10 is a court summons if the debtor doesn't cough.

Other more expensive but not necessarily any better services are available wink

jamesuk28

2,176 posts

254 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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timskipper said:
jamesuk28 said:
The problem with T Higgins is everybody knows they send out letters for £2, ie the effect is not what it use to be. In addition there are no phonecalls included to either creditor or debtor, no bespoke letter produced dependant on the exact debt circumstances, and no free follow up letters if required.

You get what you pay for.
I'm sure "everybody" doesn't. And the net result of a letter, be it £2 or £10 is a court summons if the debtor doesn't cough.

Other more expensive but not necessarily any better services are available wink
1. A court summons is not always the net result, depends on the debt amount / circumstances. Hence we produce bespoke letters, which are far more effective.

2. Compare the services rolleyes


timskipper

1,297 posts

267 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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jamesuk28 said:
timskipper said:
jamesuk28 said:
The problem with T Higgins is everybody knows they send out letters for £2, ie the effect is not what it use to be. In addition there are no phonecalls included to either creditor or debtor, no bespoke letter produced dependant on the exact debt circumstances, and no free follow up letters if required.

You get what you pay for.
I'm sure "everybody" doesn't. And the net result of a letter, be it £2 or £10 is a court summons if the debtor doesn't cough.

Other more expensive but not necessarily any better services are available wink
1. A court summons is not always the net result, depends on the debt amount / circumstances. Hence we produce bespoke letters, which are far more effective.

2. Compare the services rolleyes
rolleyes yourself.

TH have - for us - returned a 100% success rate. For £2 a pop. I struggle to see how your "better" service is better if it gets the exact same response but is more expensive.

I'll use you next time, if it makes you feel any better. smile

Golfman

5,494 posts

247 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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We use http://www.eulerhermes.co.uk/en/collections/collec... at around £3.00 per letter, but we have to fill them out. The £2.00 option you lot are arguing about seems like a good deal to me! If the content of the letter is exactly the same I fail to see why you would pay any more than you need to?

jamesuk28

2,176 posts

254 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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timskipper said:
jamesuk28 said:
timskipper said:
jamesuk28 said:
The problem with T Higgins is everybody knows they send out letters for £2, ie the effect is not what it use to be. In addition there are no phonecalls included to either creditor or debtor, no bespoke letter produced dependant on the exact debt circumstances, and no free follow up letters if required.

You get what you pay for.
I'm sure "everybody" doesn't. And the net result of a letter, be it £2 or £10 is a court summons if the debtor doesn't cough.

Other more expensive but not necessarily any better services are available wink
1. A court summons is not always the net result, depends on the debt amount / circumstances. Hence we produce bespoke letters, which are far more effective.

2. Compare the services rolleyes
rolleyes yourself.

TH have - for us - returned a 100% success rate. For £2 a pop. I struggle to see how your "better" service is better if it gets the exact same response but is more expensive.

I'll use you next time, if it makes you feel any better. smile
Don't forget to mention you are a PH'er if you do for a discount. To be fair to TH we tend to deal with complex / disputed / abscounded debtors or very old debts hence the extra charges. If is a straight forward "kick up the arse letter" then £2 is money well spent, if not then bear us in mind.