Anyone used a company called 4com (4com.co.uk)?

Anyone used a company called 4com (4com.co.uk)?

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Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

187 months

Friday 8th April 2011
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The Moose said:
Not wanting to take this further off track, but I'm genuinely interested - do you work for/run a company who rents out real plants and waters them?

I'm not taking the piss - I'm genuinely asking.

Cheers

The Moose
Yes I do. I'm kind of second in command, for want of a better word.

Here

It's a fairly big - but surprisingly low key - industry.

zippy3x

1,315 posts

268 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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typo on your "pots of health page"

FACT: Indoor plants can reduce fatique, coughs, sore throats and other cold-related illnesses by more than 30%

ETA

loads of errors actually - just on that page

60-60% reduction????

Dont put houseplants in the bedroom as they use up all the ari!

Edited by zippy3x on Saturday 9th April 10:57

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

187 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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zippy3x said:
typo on your "pots of health page"

FACT: Indoor plants can reduce fatique, coughs, sore throats and other cold-related illnesses by more than 30%

ETA

loads of errors actually - just on that page

60-60% reduction????

Dont put houseplants in the bedroom as they use up all the ari!

Edited by zippy3x on Saturday 9th April 10:57
My boss's written english is appalling! Bit of a job grammar-checking your manager.

I write most of the blog which is hopefully more grammatical.

The Moose

22,856 posts

210 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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Johnnytheboy said:
The Moose said:
Not wanting to take this further off track, but I'm genuinely interested - do you work for/run a company who rents out real plants and waters them?

I'm not taking the piss - I'm genuinely asking.

Cheers

The Moose
Yes I do. I'm kind of second in command, for want of a better word.

Here

It's a fairly big - but surprisingly low key - industry.
Fair enough - defo a low key industry by the sounds of things!!

Cheers

The Moose

nekrum

Original Poster:

571 posts

278 months

Monday 11th April 2011
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BDG said:
Anyone got anymore news on 4com. Service levels / product etc. looking to take on system but could do with some feedback outwith their web pitch.
Well since it was installed (Nov last year) we have finally got everything working as it should!..

Sunchild

1 posts

66 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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My business installed the 4Com HiHi handsets and broadband in June. I did not get any logins, had to chase these for 2 weeks, also have major faults on the handsets where callers cannot hear us. Reported this endlessly, had it escalated to 4 levels in the company and they have offered to change the handsets. Service is bad, equipment faulty, but we are in a 7 year term that we cannot get out of. Have an email train since june 2018 with all the issues, lack of response from 4com being a major issues - don't deal with this company, equipment is awful and have spent equivalent of 40 hours on emails and calls with them since June to try resolve. Avoid!

jamoor

14,506 posts

216 months

Thursday 29th November 2018
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7 year who goes around signing 7 year phone deals.


langtounlad

781 posts

172 months

Thursday 29th November 2018
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Sunchild said:
My business installed the 4Com HiHi handsets and broadband in June. I did not get any logins, had to chase these for 2 weeks, also have major faults on the handsets where callers cannot hear us. Reported this endlessly, had it escalated to 4 levels in the company and they have offered to change the handsets. Service is bad, equipment faulty, but we are in a 7 year term that we cannot get out of. Have an email train since june 2018 with all the issues, lack of response from 4com being a major issues - don't deal with this company, equipment is awful and have spent equivalent of 40 hours on emails and calls with them since June to try resolve. Avoid!
From our local newspaper in August 2017 - I don't know if things have improved. They are constantly advertising for telesales positions which indicates the level of churn - IMHO.

THE Dorset company named the best place to work in the UK is making staff redundant.
Christchurch-based telecommunications firm 4Com PLC has not revealed how many jobs are at risk, but sources have suggested the number is 45-50.
The company, which had more than 300 staff, reported a pre-tax loss of £1million for the year ending June 30, 2016. It had made a pre-tax profit of £892,000 the year before.
A statement from 4Com said yesterday: “4Com can confirm that we have entered into a period of consultation with regard to a small number of redundancies.
“This consultation comes as we undertake a management restructure across the company, having conducted a complete business review. As this period of consultation is ongoing, we will not be making further comment at this time out of respect to those involved.”
4Com topped this year’s Sunday Times 100 Best Companies to Work For in the main list for medium-sized businesses. Company chairman Daron Hutt collected the award from TV personality Ben Shephard.

Most of the company’s staff are in its head office at Aviation Park West, but others are in sales, installation and maintenance across the country.
Despite a final loss of £982,000 last year, the company declared a dividend of £3million in 2016, up from £1.89m the previous year. Directors’ remuneration totalled £1.29m, with the highest paid director earning £378,000.

The directors’ report filed with 4Com’s accounts last year put the losses down to the planned costs of investment and the launch of a new device.

4Com launched its own desktop phone that year, offering features usually seen in a smartphone or tablet, such as an internet browser, smart apps and video calling. The phone – the product of a hardware programme that began in 2012 – was launched in the first quarter of the year and 923 handsets had been installed by June 30.
The directors’ report mentioned “significant cash outflows during the year related to the planned and fully costed investment in the group’s new product development programme, the launch of the IP desktop telephone and payments to the Chinese manufacturer according to the minimum order level agreement for initial stocking.”
Chairman Daron Hutt founded the company in Salisbury in 1999.

richalex

4 posts

61 months

Thursday 4th April 2019
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Sunchild said:
My business installed the 4Com HiHi handsets and broadband in June. I did not get any logins, had to chase these for 2 weeks, also have major faults on the handsets where callers cannot hear us. Reported this endlessly, had it escalated to 4 levels in the company and they have offered to change the handsets. Service is bad, equipment faulty, but we are in a 7 year term that we cannot get out of. Have an email train since june 2018 with all the issues, lack of response from 4com being a major issues - don't deal with this company, equipment is awful and have spent equivalent of 40 hours on emails and calls with them since June to try resolve. Avoid!
Sunchild please can you get in touch we have a similar issue and I need to compare notes - we may be able to help each other ... Im new to the forum I'll try to work out how to PM you !

richalex

4 posts

61 months

Thursday 4th April 2019
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richalex said:
Sunchild said:
My business installed the 4Com HiHi handsets and broadband in June. I did not get any logins, had to chase these for 2 weeks, also have major faults on the handsets where callers cannot hear us. Reported this endlessly, had it escalated to 4 levels in the company and they have offered to change the handsets. Service is bad, equipment faulty, but we are in a 7 year term that we cannot get out of. Have an email train since june 2018 with all the issues, lack of response from 4com being a major issues - don't deal with this company, equipment is awful and have spent equivalent of 40 hours on emails and calls with them since June to try resolve. Avoid!
Sunchild please can you get in touch we have a similar issue and I need to compare notes - we may be able to help each other ... Im new to the forum I'll try to work out how to PM you !
sorry I cannot PM you for 24 hours yet but if you can message me maybe I can provide my contact details ?

richalex

4 posts

61 months

Thursday 4th April 2019
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nekrum said:
Hi

Systems been installed and a few of the features we required are surprise surprise not available.. seems to be a major case of salesperson not listening to the requirements and concentrating on getting a signature on the order form.. anywho now waiting on them sorting it but I fear we're going to be disappointed..

Anyone had any dealings with them?..
Hello can you PM me about 4Com we have huge problems for over a year now and am looking to find other's in the same boat ?

richalex

4 posts

61 months

Thursday 4th April 2019
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The Moose said:
Erm - not allowed to name and shame really.

PM is the answer!!

Cheers

The Moose
Moose can you PM me if you too are a 4Com customer ?

LCH146

1 posts

61 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2019
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Hi

Did anyone find a way out of these terms ?

The Moose

22,856 posts

210 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2019
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richalex said:
The Moose said:
Erm - not allowed to name and shame really.

PM is the answer!!

Cheers

The Moose
Moose can you PM me if you too are a 4Com customer ?
Not any more.

As my mother used to say, "if you can't say anything nice about someone, don't say anything."

That being the case, my comment on 4com is below:

CANUKCOMS

1 posts

51 months

Friday 14th February 2020
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My business installed the 4Com HiHi handsets and broadband in June. I did not get any logins, had to chase these for 2 weeks, also have major faults on the handsets where callers cannot hear us. Reported this endlessly, had it escalated to 4 levels in the company and they have offered to change the handsets. Service is bad, equipment faulty, but we are in a 7 year term that we cannot get out of. Have an email train since june 2018 with all the issues, lack of response from 4com being a major issues - don't deal with this company, equipment is awful and have spent equivalent of 40 hours on emails and calls with them since June to try resolve. Avoid!

I am currently working with two companies that are in a similar situation, 7-year term. I also work in the telecommunications industry and I am reviewing all of the paperwork for them to see if any loopholes. Yes, you can rent phones over a 7-year term, note for your accountant you don't own is so it is a non-taxable asset. If those users on this forum that also have a 7 year term, did they settle off existing contacts as part of the new agreement? let me know and I will advise if I find a loop whole.

Robotron-2084

480 posts

50 months

Sunday 17th May 2020
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Known as 4Con, tried to tuck up my company with a 7 year contract... even sent a cringeworthy old milf to try and sweeten the deal hurl

rallye101

1,912 posts

198 months

Wednesday 16th September 2020
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CANUKCOMS said:
My business installed the 4Com HiHi handsets and broadband in June. I did not get any logins, had to chase these for 2 weeks, also have major faults on the handsets where callers cannot hear us. Reported this endlessly, had it escalated to 4 levels in the company and they have offered to change the handsets. Service is bad, equipment faulty, but we are in a 7 year term that we cannot get out of. Have an email train since june 2018 with all the issues, lack of response from 4com being a major issues - don't deal with this company, equipment is awful and have spent equivalent of 40 hours on emails and calls with them since June to try resolve. Avoid!

I am currently working with two companies that are in a similar situation, 7-year term. I also work in the telecommunications industry and I am reviewing all of the paperwork for them to see if any loopholes. Yes, you can rent phones over a 7-year term, note for your accountant you don't own is so it is a non-taxable asset. If those users on this forum that also have a 7 year term, did they settle off existing contacts as part of the new agreement? let me know and I will advise if I find a loop whole.
sorry to dig this up, any loopholes found? I'm in a similar situation

bnseven

132 posts

139 months

Friday 19th August 2022
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apologies for the thread resurrection but were there any updates from the above??

We also have a HiHi phone system that throws constant faults and little support. In reality we need to be rid of it however the telephony business is a pool full of sharks and be grateful for a steer for a telephone business that is reliable and can deliver.....

Stephanie Plum

2,782 posts

212 months

Sunday 21st August 2022
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We installed new phones using these guys about a year ago:

https://shinenetworks.net/

They’ve been pretty good both in terms of hardware and queries, they are quick to respond and helpful.

bnseven

132 posts

139 months

Monday 22nd August 2022
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thanks for that, I will have a look at them