Car Dealers - Start up advice?

Car Dealers - Start up advice?

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1987

Original Poster:

89 posts

174 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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Struggling to get a good trade insurance quote. I sort of expected it at my age but still annoying!

spikeyhead

17,314 posts

197 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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1987 said:
Struggling to get a good trade insurance quote. I sort of expected it at my age but still annoying!
Try Alfreton Insurance Brokers

1987

Original Poster:

89 posts

174 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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Thank you.

fatvik

354 posts

183 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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Good luck mate.

daemon

35,816 posts

197 months

Thursday 11th November 2010
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Yes, good luck.

Keep us updated with progress!

steebo888

784 posts

198 months

Friday 12th November 2010
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Best of luck. I think your choice of cars to sell is very good with rising costs to run cars etc and with the right marketing etc there is potential for your business.

1987

Original Poster:

89 posts

174 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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PH is truly wonderful. Have managed to find ways to register a domain, set up @yourdomain.com email accounts, find a letter headings and business cards company run by a PHer, regulations on towing trailers, bookkeeping software information and lots of other advice just by searching previous threads.

Things are taking shape nicely. Hope you don't mind if I update this regularly.

Currently thinking of ways to advertise to the college and sixth form kids who need a first car. Maybe driving instructor pupils too.

44 days to go.


RockyRoad

43 posts

174 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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Great thread, hats off for taking the leap.

6th formers.......... perhaps facebook/twitter or a well placed sign on a trailer outside the school gates? smile

KingRichard

10,144 posts

232 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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Best of luck smile

Nice to see somebody actually taking some action instead of just expecting others to have their ideas for them...

Once we move to our new yard next month, I'm going to experiment with breaking a car then selling the bits online. See what I make back and go from there. This was recently suggested by another PH'er.

It could prove a nice little sideline to our main business, and as we employ a mechanic anyway... it's a logical progression.

Sometimes you just have to suck it and see!

If it doesn't work, it's cost me a few hundred quid, if it does work then at the very least it's my mortgage paid! biggrin

jas xjr

11,309 posts

239 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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KingRichard said:
Best of luck smile

Nice to see somebody actually taking some action instead of just expecting others to have their ideas for them...

Once we move to our new yard next month, I'm going to experiment with breaking a car then selling the bits online. See what I make back and go from there. This was recently suggested by another PH'er.

It could prove a nice little sideline to our main business, and as we employ a mechanic anyway... it's a logical progression.

Sometimes you just have to suck it and see!

If it doesn't work, it's cost me a few hundred quid, if it does work then at the very least it's my mortgage paid! biggrin
i once had an old ford transit that i could not give away. somebody suggested i broke it. i had people travelling from leicester to birmingham for a part. £10 for each wheel and tyre . sold things that i would have given away. reckon i got about £600 for the bits.even managed to sell the ht leads

always thought it was a viable option to make some cash as long as there are not too many hoops to jump through these days

KingRichard

10,144 posts

232 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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Sorry for the hi-jack.

As far as I can work out... you strip a motor down (grease monkey reckons he can do a saloon in a day, so £100 in labour).

Take the shell to the scrappy who will take the V5 and declare it scrapped.

Clean all the bits up, stick them in bags with stock numbers on. Pack them on racking.

Advertise online (ebay, own website, gumtree).

I looked at Porsche 928's. You can get a manky one with no MOT for about a grand.

The back bumper ALONE is worth £500 as you can't get hold of them. Then the engine, all the electrical components, dashboards, gearbox, glass, lights, body panels, wheels...

All adds up.

We are just buying the scrap back of a taxi that was written off (Cat D) in an RTA on the motorway. By the time we have stripped and sold all the bits from a 2 year old car that are worth selling, we'll be about £3k up on the deal - assuming we can sell all of these parts.

V8mate

45,899 posts

189 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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KingRichard said:
Sorry for the hi-jack.

As far as I can work out... you strip a motor down (grease monkey reckons he can do a saloon in a day, so £100 in labour).

Take the shell to the scrappy who will take the V5 and declare it scrapped.

Clean all the bits up, stick them in bags with stock numbers on. Pack them on racking.

Advertise online (ebay, own website, gumtree).

I looked at Porsche 928's. You can get a manky one with no MOT for about a grand.

The back bumper ALONE is worth £500 as you can't get hold of them. Then the engine, all the electrical components, dashboards, gearbox, glass, lights, body panels, wheels...

All adds up.

We are just buying the scrap back of a taxi that was written off (Cat D) in an RTA on the motorway. By the time we have stripped and sold all the bits from a 2 year old car that are worth selling, we'll be about £3k up on the deal - assuming we can sell all of these parts.
The only bit you forgot is getting the various waste licences from the EA and planning permission for vehicle dismantling from your local authority.

KingRichard

10,144 posts

232 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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Out of interest, why would I need a waste licence to strip a car in ten hours and stock the parts?

I get the bit about the L.A but we have permission to work on our fleet... I'm sure the guy will be okay with us dismantling our own parts. They are mainly concerned with Health & Safety. As long as we aren't buggering about with fluids it should be okay smile

V8mate

45,899 posts

189 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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Anyone dismantling vehicles needs to comply with the Vehicle End of Life directive.

Enjoy

KingRichard

10,144 posts

232 months

Friday 19th November 2010
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V8mate said:
Anyone dismantling vehicles needs to comply with the Vehicle End of Life directive.

Enjoy
That looks like you can get a paragraph 45 exemption... whatever that is - so if I just wanted the spares for my taxi company, that would be fine to dismantle a vehicle, as long as I notified them of the activity.

If I want to sell the parts, I will become unstuck, unless I buy them 'depolluted'.

V8mate - happy to take this off forum if you like, otherwise we'll ruin this thread smile

paoloh

8,617 posts

204 months

Saturday 20th November 2010
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It is like listening to Pinky and the Brain...lol

Back on track.

Your business model is a good one. Small cars with fast turnover and reasonable profits. Cars at that end of the market are not really affected by book drops either.

If you are still struggling with your insurance, drop me a line and I will pass on a number for you.

1987

Original Poster:

89 posts

174 months

Sunday 5th December 2010
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Quick update. I've sold my Clio and have bought my first 3 cars yesterday. Another 12 to go before new year.
Signage is next which is looking expensive, but i want it to look as smart as possible as i think people judge a garage a lot on the appearance.

Still at my current job so juggling everything and Christmas is difficult but hopefully everything will be ready in time!


V8mate

45,899 posts

189 months

Sunday 5th December 2010
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Who did you go with for motor trade insurance?

Rollcage

11,327 posts

192 months

Sunday 5th December 2010
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Is that twelve to put into stock, or 12 to sell before New Year? If it's the latter, then I wish you the best of luck, as you will surely need it! things are a bit quiet out there......

daemon

35,816 posts

197 months

Sunday 5th December 2010
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Rollcage said:
Is that twelve to put into stock, or 12 to sell before New Year? If it's the latter, then I wish you the best of luck, as you will surely need it! things are a bit quiet out there......
think its 12 to get before the new year - hes looking 15 for stock for startup.