My new torch

[tenohfive]

klmhcp said:

That has to have been designed by an IT person. Ridiculously unintuitive and overcomplicated.

If you've got a better suggestion for a system that is controlled with one button then I'll happily pass it on to the guy who makes the torches. This is all built into a £15 torch, remember, and I defy you to find me something with a better system at that price point.

And it's nowhere near as complicated as it looks. Hit the button repeatedly until it goes to mode selection, press once, the light flashes repeatedly in ascending order the mode numbers. You hit click when it flashes the one you want. Or don't, leave it in mode 1 if it's really that complicated - nothing lost.

It took me all of 2 minutes to sort the first light. And 30 seconds to sort the second. Given that I'm unlikely to be changing mode very often I can certainly live with it.

[Uncle John]

I posted a few pages back about my TM16 not cycling through the modes correctly with the Ultrafire batteries being the main suspect.

So, what are the best budget 18650 batteries with a button to fit the Nitecore TM16?

I dont want to spend 20 quid each on a set of Nitecores.

[klmhcp]

tenohfive said:

klmhcp said:

That has to have been designed by an IT person. Ridiculously unintuitive and overcomplicated.

If you've got a better suggestion for a system that is controlled with one button then I'll happily pass it on to the guy who makes the torches. This is all built into a £15 torch, remember, and I defy you to find me something with a better system at that price point.

And it's nowhere near as complicated as it looks. Hit the button repeatedly until it goes to mode selection, press once, the light flashes repeatedly in ascending order the mode numbers. You hit click when it flashes the one you want. Or don't, leave it in mode 1 if it's really that complicated - nothing lost.

It took me all of 2 minutes to sort the first light. And 30 seconds to sort the second. Given that I'm unlikely to be changing mode very often I can certainly live with it.

No need to be overly defensive. It's worth remembering that the series of instructions above are for a torch, something you may have lost sight of. A torch.

[tenohfive]

klmhcp said:

No need to be overly defensive. It's worth remembering that the series of instructions above are for a torch, something you may have lost sight of. A torch.

I'll make no apologies - I'm glad to have the feature set. It cost no extra, doesn't get in the way of the basic use of the light and if I never use it again then I'm no worse off. Quite why it would be a bad thing - or something you'd sneer down your nose at - is beyond me.

[tenohfive]

Uncle John said:

I posted a few pages back about my TM16 not cycling through the modes correctly with the Ultrafire batteries being the main suspect.

So, what are the best budget 18650 batteries with a button to fit the Nitecore TM16?

I dont want to spend 20 quid each on a set of Nitecores.

Samsung 30Q's are usually a safe bet:

http://www.banggood.com/4PCS-Samsung-INR18650-30Q-...

[klmhcp]

tenohfive said:

klmhcp said:

No need to be overly defensive. It's worth remembering that the series of instructions above are for a torch, something you may have lost sight of. A torch.

I'll make no apologies - I'm glad to have the feature set. It cost no extra, doesn't get in the way of the basic use of the light and if I never use it again then I'm no worse off. Quite why it would be a bad thing - or something you'd sneer down your nose at - is beyond me.

Maybe we're just different. I use a torch for work and it needs to be tough, waterproof and above all easy to use when you've got mind on other things and your hands full. Accessing menus on a torch is a bridge too far. For bragging rights among other torchies I guess it ticks all the boxes.

Anyway.

[red_slr]

klmhcp said:

tenohfive said:

klmhcp said:

No need to be overly defensive. It's worth remembering that the series of instructions above are for a torch, something you may have lost sight of. A torch.

I'll make no apologies - I'm glad to have the feature set. It cost no extra, doesn't get in the way of the basic use of the light and if I never use it again then I'm no worse off. Quite why it would be a bad thing - or something you'd sneer down your nose at - is beyond me.

Maybe we're just different. I use a torch for work and it needs to be tough, waterproof and above all easy to use when you've got mind on other things and your hands full. Accessing menus on a torch is a bridge too far. For bragging rights among other torchies I guess it ticks all the boxes.

Anyway.

Ahhh, I remember the joys of such jobs... dragon lamp was our weapon of choice. Days before LEDs and all that.

[budgie smuggler]

klmhcp said:

No need to be overly defensive. It's worth remembering that the series of instructions above are for a torch, something you may have lost sight of. A torch.

You're not forced to use all the features though, simply clicking the torch on and clicking again for off will work.

I personally welcome the menu system as I have a lot of torches with irritating modes I never use and would like them disabled to save me clicking through them every time. (I only use 100%, 50% and off TBH). No need for strobes etc.

[schmunk]

klmhcp said:

Maybe we're just different. I use a torch for work and it needs to be tough, waterproof and above all easy to use when you've got mind on other things and your hands full. Accessing menus on a torch is a bridge too far. For bragging rights among other torchies I guess it ticks all the boxes.

Anyway.

You should stick yours in mode 12 then...

[300bhp/ton]

klmhcp said:

tenohfive said:

klmhcp said:

That has to have been designed by an IT person. Ridiculously unintuitive and overcomplicated.

If you've got a better suggestion for a system that is controlled with one button then I'll happily pass it on to the guy who makes the torches. This is all built into a £15 torch, remember, and I defy you to find me something with a better system at that price point.

And it's nowhere near as complicated as it looks. Hit the button repeatedly until it goes to mode selection, press once, the light flashes repeatedly in ascending order the mode numbers. You hit click when it flashes the one you want. Or don't, leave it in mode 1 if it's really that complicated - nothing lost.

It took me all of 2 minutes to sort the first light. And 30 seconds to sort the second. Given that I'm unlikely to be changing mode very often I can certainly live with it.

No need to be overly defensive. It's worth remembering that the series of instructions above are for a torch, something you may have lost sight of. A torch.

That UI is designed by someone I know on another forum and is largely inspiration lead by a forum community and a lot of voluntary effort as well from many talented people.

The torch will work fine if you do nothing with it, the UI modes are simply there for those that actually want more. Of which there are many people. The flashlight community is pretty large and full of enthusiasts.

You may just see it as 'a torch'. Just as many people have no interest in cars and likely see an M4 or TVR as just "a car". But websites like this prove that not everyone thinks that way.

So maybe you could try accepting that other people may have similar interests in other hobbies to, such as flashlights and torches.

[Hainey]

Just had a Klarus G20 delivered. Well it's been a month at least since I bought a torch.

Very impressed with it after a little play in the garden as it's very bright if a little warm on big output. Handy for keeping in the 4x4 I think this winter.

[klmhcp]

300bhp/ton said:

klmhcp said:

tenohfive said:

klmhcp said:

That has to have been designed by an IT person. Ridiculously unintuitive and overcomplicated.

If you've got a better suggestion for a system that is controlled with one button then I'll happily pass it on to the guy who makes the torches. This is all built into a £15 torch, remember, and I defy you to find me something with a better system at that price point.

And it's nowhere near as complicated as it looks. Hit the button repeatedly until it goes to mode selection, press once, the light flashes repeatedly in ascending order the mode numbers. You hit click when it flashes the one you want. Or don't, leave it in mode 1 if it's really that complicated - nothing lost.

It took me all of 2 minutes to sort the first light. And 30 seconds to sort the second. Given that I'm unlikely to be changing mode very often I can certainly live with it.

No need to be overly defensive. It's worth remembering that the series of instructions above are for a torch, something you may have lost sight of. A torch.

That UI is designed by someone I know on another forum and is largely inspiration lead by a forum community and a lot of voluntary effort as well from many talented people.

The torch will work fine if you do nothing with it, the UI modes are simply there for those that actually want more. Of which there are many people. The flashlight community is pretty large and full of enthusiasts.

You may just see it as 'a torch'. Just as many people have no interest in cars and likely see an M4 or TVR as just "a car". But websites like this prove that not everyone thinks that way.

So maybe you could try accepting that other people may have similar interests in other hobbies to, such as flashlights and torches.

Maybe you. We'd to try accepting other people's opinion on things too. It works both ways.

[tenohfive]

klmhcp said:

Maybe you. We'd to try accepting other people's opinion on things too. It works both ways.

What opinion? That (in a thread to discuss torches) we should point and laugh at the torch geeks who get excited about a feature on a torch?

Post a meaningful opinion rather than just having a pop because you don't actually understand something and you might find your opinion being taken a bit more seriously.

[klmhcp]

tenohfive said:

klmhcp said:

Maybe you. We'd to try accepting other people's opinion on things too. It works both ways.

What opinion? That (in a thread to discuss torches) we should point and laugh at the torch geeks who get excited about a feature on a torch?

Post a meaningful opinion rather than just having a pop because you don't actually understand something and you might find your opinion being taken a bit more seriously.

Here it is, a reply to you actually, from a couple of posts up:

klmhcp said:

Maybe we're just different. I use a torch for work and it needs to be tough, waterproof and above all easy to use when you've got mind on other things and your hands full. Accessing menus on a torch is a bridge too far.

You missed it as you skim read my posts for things to get cross about.


As for

tenohfive said:

having a pop because you don't actually understand something

- wow.


'Community', 'torch geeks', etc - all a bit pens-in-top-pocket and cringeworthy IMO. I'd wager most of these 'community members' have a dozen torches on charge at their 'flashlight basestation' ready for the power cut that never comes or the end of days.

[tenohfive]

klmhcp said:

tenohfive said:

klmhcp said:

Maybe you. We'd to try accepting other people's opinion on things too. It works both ways.

What opinion? That (in a thread to discuss torches) we should point and laugh at the torch geeks who get excited about a feature on a torch?

Post a meaningful opinion rather than just having a pop because you don't actually understand something and you might find your opinion being taken a bit more seriously.

Here it is, a reply to you actually, from a couple of posts up:

klmhcp said:

Maybe we're just different. I use a torch for work and it needs to be tough, waterproof and above all easy to use when you've got mind on other things and your hands full. Accessing menus on a torch is a bridge too far.

You missed it as you skim read my posts for things to get cross about.


As for

tenohfive said:

having a pop because you don't actually understand something

- wow.


'Community', 'torch geeks', etc - all a bit pens-in-top-pocket and cringeworthy IMO. I'd wager most of these 'community members' have a dozen torches on charge at their 'flashlight basestation' ready for the power cut that never comes or the end of days.

I'm amused that you selectively quoted your own post, missing the next line where you have a dig:

klmhcp said:

For bragging rights among other torchies I guess it ticks all the boxes.

klmhcp said:

It's worth remembering that the series of instructions above are for a torch, something you may have lost sight of. A torch.

When you start chucking comments about like the above you're clearly trolling for a reaction and it looks like you've got it. Well played. Give yourself a big clap on the back.

Now I'm going to get back to talking about torches rather than 'torchies.'



Nitecore TIP ordered:
http://flashlight.nitecore.com/product/tip

360 lumen keyring light, microUSB rechargable. I've got a few of the older 45 lumen NC Tube's and they're great so this seems like a no-brainer. There was an issue with the lockout mode not working/parasitic power drain but apparently they've fixed it now. And allegedly Banggood have stock of the V2 version with that issue sorted, so I've ordered a couple.
They also do a lower output high CRI version but I've got my eye on another light to see how the Nichia 219B emitter actually looks; people on BLF etc seem to rave about it, but until I've tried it given the choice I've been going down the Clarkson-esque route of choosing more power every time.

[_dobbo_]

klmhcp said:

- wow.


'Community', 'torch geeks', etc - all a bit pens-in-top-pocket and cringeworthy IMO. I'd wager most of these 'community members' have a dozen torches on charge at their 'flashlight basestation' ready for the power cut that never comes or the end of days.

You're in a nearly 100 page threat titled "My new torch". What did you think the discussion would be about?

[Private Pile]

ive lost my work torch so I'm looking for recommendations for its replacement. It was 3 x aaa black rubber. I'm sure it was a quality make like lenser or similar. I bought the original through a link someone posted on this thread. Any offers on something similar?

Ps something that I can change the focus would be handy.

Thanks

[FiF]

The mother in law lost her torch, it was one of those cheapie that cost about a fiver. Got her a lenser L7, runs off 3xAAA, polycarbonate body as opposed to aluminium. For a really lightweight torch have been impressed. 19.98 on Amazon.

Personally don't need any more torches.

[300bhp/ton]

klmhcp said:

tenohfive said:

klmhcp said:

Maybe you. We'd to try accepting other people's opinion on things too. It works both ways.

What opinion? That (in a thread to discuss torches) we should point and laugh at the torch geeks who get excited about a feature on a torch?

Post a meaningful opinion rather than just having a pop because you don't actually understand something and you might find your opinion being taken a bit more seriously.

Here it is, a reply to you actually, from a couple of posts up:

klmhcp said:

Maybe we're just different. I use a torch for work and it needs to be tough, waterproof and above all easy to use when you've got mind on other things and your hands full. Accessing menus on a torch is a bridge too far.

You missed it as you skim read my posts for things to get cross about.


As for

tenohfive said:

having a pop because you don't actually understand something

- wow.


'Community', 'torch geeks', etc - all a bit pens-in-top-pocket and cringeworthy IMO. I'd wager most of these 'community members' have a dozen torches on charge at their 'flashlight basestation' ready for the power cut that never comes or the end of days.

/ignore

[FiF]

300bhp/ton said:

/ignore

Good advice frankly.