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Mojooo said:
Its up there with the best in terms of design IMO.
I wish the screen extended more to the edges and the unit itself was smaller - iPhone size or less woudl be ideal - but its only a tiny bit bigger than the iPhone anyway.
TBH from the photos on engadget it looks to be only marginally longer than the iphone. In all other respects looks to be around the same size.I wish the screen extended more to the edges and the unit itself was smaller - iPhone size or less woudl be ideal - but its only a tiny bit bigger than the iPhone anyway.
I think the screen is the way it is for manufacturing or maybe durability purposes. The iphone is weak in drop tests most likely largely due to the glass going right to the edge of the device and therefore directly being impacted on any given drop whereas this design will afford a degree of shock protection.
I'm a big fan of WP7.5, having run a Mozart for 12 months. The Nokia 800 thingy looks really nice and my GF is probably going to get one, my contract has another year to run, so I'll probably be on the next cycle of devices.
It's interesting that rumours are circulating that Nokia have rushed these to gain market traction before releasing some killer devices next year. It sounds like Nokia might be granted some leeway on chasis spec and API access compared with what HTC etc have to deal with, which raises some interesting possibilities. In short, why would I buy a HTC if Nokia's kit is as good (or better) and they are able to do more with the OS and device? To flip that statement on it's head, why would HTC etc continue with Windows Phone if everyone is buying the better implementation from Nokia? Could end up reducing the diversity of the devices perhaps?
Thoughts?
It's interesting that rumours are circulating that Nokia have rushed these to gain market traction before releasing some killer devices next year. It sounds like Nokia might be granted some leeway on chasis spec and API access compared with what HTC etc have to deal with, which raises some interesting possibilities. In short, why would I buy a HTC if Nokia's kit is as good (or better) and they are able to do more with the OS and device? To flip that statement on it's head, why would HTC etc continue with Windows Phone if everyone is buying the better implementation from Nokia? Could end up reducing the diversity of the devices perhaps?
Thoughts?
Apparently the 800 has USB storage access which no other Windows phones have - so maybe they are already getting leeway.
http://www.geeksailor.com/nokia-lumia-800-710-wind...
I believe Samsung will have some new phones out for WP7 soon as well so it shall be interesting.
http://www.geeksailor.com/nokia-lumia-800-710-wind...
I believe Samsung will have some new phones out for WP7 soon as well so it shall be interesting.
I've been a nokia fanboy since I was 10 or 11 and had my first Nokia, that's half my life spent using nokia products without ever being disappointed.
Nokia's strategy has left me quite... disheartened to say the least.
Every nokia phone I've owned has been built so well you could throw them around, drop them and never really have to worry about the phone coming to harm, not that I would. I was never a massive fan of symbian and when the N900 was released I thought it was the beginning of something really amazing. The size of the community for maemo/meego alone shows that it's got a lot of backing.
I was going to get an N9, then they announced no N9's for the UK which was annoying. The fact they're going to drop the OS more or less saddens me more as, while it needed polishing and some work, it was good, it was open and it was in the consumer interest.
Instead of pushing further with this, they've adopted Windows Mobile which, in my opinion, just isn't quite as good as android. Add to that the fact they're releasing single core phones in a market which the leaders are pushing dual cores of similar speed (samsung have a dual 1.5 in Korea) makes me really question Nokia's plans.
I'm going to try to pick up an N9 because I love my N900, but it'll be my last Nokia if I do unless they release more with maemo/meego. I'm genuinely disappointed by them.
tl;dr me bawwing about nerdy stuff
Nokia's strategy has left me quite... disheartened to say the least.
Every nokia phone I've owned has been built so well you could throw them around, drop them and never really have to worry about the phone coming to harm, not that I would. I was never a massive fan of symbian and when the N900 was released I thought it was the beginning of something really amazing. The size of the community for maemo/meego alone shows that it's got a lot of backing.
I was going to get an N9, then they announced no N9's for the UK which was annoying. The fact they're going to drop the OS more or less saddens me more as, while it needed polishing and some work, it was good, it was open and it was in the consumer interest.
Instead of pushing further with this, they've adopted Windows Mobile which, in my opinion, just isn't quite as good as android. Add to that the fact they're releasing single core phones in a market which the leaders are pushing dual cores of similar speed (samsung have a dual 1.5 in Korea) makes me really question Nokia's plans.
I'm going to try to pick up an N9 because I love my N900, but it'll be my last Nokia if I do unless they release more with maemo/meego. I'm genuinely disappointed by them.
tl;dr me bawwing about nerdy stuff
This looks to be a cracking replacement for my X6 early next year, unless Nokia launches something even better soon.
Capacity doesn't bother me, since I've got 16gb on this phone and have come nowhere close to using all of it.
Hopefully the battery will be as good as Nokias usually are.
Capacity doesn't bother me, since I've got 16gb on this phone and have come nowhere close to using all of it.
Hopefully the battery will be as good as Nokias usually are.
LOGiK said:
Instead of pushing further with this, they've adopted Windows Mobile which, in my opinion, just isn't quite as good as android. Add to that the fact they're releasing single core phones in a market which the leaders are pushing dual cores of similar speed (samsung have a dual 1.5 in Korea) makes me really question Nokia's plans.
The mobile phone spec war is largely pointless. If you have used a WP7 device you will realise exactly why they haven't released any dual core devices, there is simply no point. Android, on the other hand, needs as much power as you can throw at it.I do share your sadness about meego as a gadget lover but I don't think that it would ever have brought Nokia back to relevance frankly.
LOGiK said:
I'm going to try to pick up an N9 because I love my N900, but it'll be my last Nokia if I do unless they release more with maemo/meego.
It'll be your last, then. The N9 was almost certainly only released as a Maemo/Harmattan (and advertised as having Meego) phone to satisfy some contractual obligation with Intel. Hence the odd spread of launch countries - Australia, Brazil, Kazakhstan. But not in Japan, Canada, Sweden, Germany, the UK orthe US.Meego on (Nokia) phones is dead. Nokia needed something, to replace Symbian (which, a few die-hard fans notwithstanding, cannot compete at all with Android or iOS), that was complete now. Meego's "it's finished" date just kept sliding rightwards - I believe that the Nokia Meego team were talking about it being done sometime in 2014.
Whether Meego would ever have been a viable platform will be the subject of debate for years, I think. Personally, I think not. Nokia's failure to actually get the software into any kind of "finished" state has seen to that.
I think most people miss one fundamental fact about symbian and meego harmatten. Both are low power source software meaning they need less processor power to run which in turn should mean a better battery life.
you only need to look at the apple iphone 4s thread where people are complaining about battery life.
Its all well and good having an all singing all dancing bit of software and a huge processor on a smartphone to run it slickly but if the battery will only last 6 to 8 hrs then what's the point ?
you only need to look at the apple iphone 4s thread where people are complaining about battery life.
Its all well and good having an all singing all dancing bit of software and a huge processor on a smartphone to run it slickly but if the battery will only last 6 to 8 hrs then what's the point ?
Tallbut Buxomly said:
I think most people miss one fundamental fact about symbian and meego harmatten. Both are low power source software meaning they need less processor power to run which in turn should mean a better battery life.
you only need to look at the apple iphone 4s thread where people are complaining about battery life.
Its all well and good having an all singing all dancing bit of software and a huge processor on a smartphone to run it slickly but if the battery will only last 6 to 8 hrs then what's the point ?
loads of people moan about battery life. It doesn't stop them buying those kinds of phones. People are willing to trade battery life for other features, it seems. you only need to look at the apple iphone 4s thread where people are complaining about battery life.
Its all well and good having an all singing all dancing bit of software and a huge processor on a smartphone to run it slickly but if the battery will only last 6 to 8 hrs then what's the point ?
very true Ch but bugs me that people slate symbian and harmatten without really thinking about the reasoning behind it.
Sure symbian was poor in its last two or three yrs however I am using the latest version and think its miles better than its been in a very long time. Its not android or ios however that's largely the point.
Sure symbian was poor in its last two or three yrs however I am using the latest version and think its miles better than its been in a very long time. Its not android or ios however that's largely the point.
Tallbut Buxomly said:
very true Ch but bugs me that people slate symbian and harmatten without really thinking about the reasoning behind it.
Sure symbian was poor in its last two or three yrs however I am using the latest version and think its miles better than its been in a very long time. Its not android or ios however that's largely the point.
Note: I'm talking about people, not the babbling techno-press, here.Sure symbian was poor in its last two or three yrs however I am using the latest version and think its miles better than its been in a very long time. Its not android or ios however that's largely the point.
Most people slate Symbian for the fact that there's piss-all apps for it, and it's mostly noxious to use. If the choice for an ordinary user is an HTC Wildfire for a hundred quid, which plays Angry Birds*, and the latest Symbian super-phone, which doesn't, then I'm sorry, you can have all the gigabytes and NFC and Meegos and Maemos and pentabands and super-duper cameras you like: Angry Birds* wins.
People don't slate Harmattan. They don't slate what they've never heard of.
*Other wildly popular applications which don't exist on Symbian are available
Certainly want to have a go, also this thread is missing a picture of what is probably one of the sexiest phones release this year:
I think Nokia and MS will hit gold here, also retail prices are very, very competitive.
Good design, very smooth interface, hardware & software matched together. Could this be a real iphone alternative?
I think Nokia and MS will hit gold here, also retail prices are very, very competitive.
Good design, very smooth interface, hardware & software matched together. Could this be a real iphone alternative?
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