Raspberry Pi - Who's gonna have a dabble?

[tank slapper]

Tonsko said:

I didn't, but I suspected it wouldn't be. Isn't it the phone version?

No, it's the IoT version and won't have a GUI. It's intended to run code for embedded applications.

[Tonsko]

That makes sense then. Could be useful.

[tank slapper]

If you are already using the previous model, you can swap the SD card straight over and it should boot OK, at least if you are using Raspbian. Before doing so, just make sure the OS is fully up to date - run apt-get update, and apt-get upgrade, then rpi-update to get the latest firmware.

If you are using a B+ you can swap the micro SD card straight over, but the original B uses normal SD cards so you have to transfer the contents using something like win32diskimager.

[Tonsko]

Aye, this is my first pi. Card has got the latest raspbian image written to it, going to try booting it shortly.

[Graham]

32gb card still formating here...hopefully be booting soon

[strudel]

Class 4 microsd with latest raspbian:

simon@Octopus:~$ sudo dd if=/media/simon/NAS/2015-01-31-raspbian.img of=/dev/sdg
[sudo] password for simon:
no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory
dd: writing to ‘/dev/sdg’: Input/output error
5098505+0 records in
5098504+0 records out
2610434048 bytes (2.6 GB) copied, 2696.04 s, 968 kB/s

Slooooooooooooooooooooow.

[Graham]

I used a PNY class10 32gb. sat at the GUI now

[Tonsko]

Mine's a class 4 too. That'll explain that one. Verrry sloooow.

[Oakey]

Try the Amber skin or Aeon MQ5 (you'll need the kodie fix version from the forum).

[ecotec]

Tonsko said:

Mine's a class 4 too. That'll explain that one. Verrry sloooow.

class speed will not make any real difference:
"SD card class. The card class determines the sustained write speed for the card; a class 4 card will be able to write at 4MB/s, whereas a class 10 should be able to attain 10 MB/s. However it should be noted that this does not mean a class 10 card will outperform a class 4 card for general usage, because often this write speed is achieved at the cost of read speed and increased seek times."
http://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/installat...

For the pi we need quick read speeds not write speeds
lots of info on the pi forum, if it really slow I would suggest perhaps there are other factors?

[Tonsko]

It's slow to write to it to make the image from my mac, not to boot the machine/run the pi.

[marctwo]

strudel said:

Class 4 microsd with latest raspbian:

simon@Octopus:~$ sudo dd if=/media/simon/NAS/2015-01-31-raspbian.img of=/dev/sdg
[sudo] password for simon:
no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory
dd: writing to ‘/dev/sdg’: Input/output error
5098505+0 records in
5098504+0 records out
2610434048 bytes (2.6 GB) copied, 2696.04 s, 968 kB/s

Slooooooooooooooooooooow.

Try appending 'bs=1m' to the end of the dd command:

sudo dd if=/media/simon/NAS/2015-01-31-raspbian.img of=/dev/sdg bs=1m

Also, try keeping the image file on a local drive.

[zippy3x]

tank slapper said:

Tonsko said:

I didn't, but I suspected it wouldn't be. Isn't it the phone version?

No, it's the IoT version and won't have a GUI. It's intended to run code for embedded applications.

Don't be too sure.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsofts-windows-10...

Mary Jo Foley (who has a lot of contacts at Microsoft) reckons it might run windows 10 "Athens" which you can see in a slide in the link above "Built on ARM or x86, An optimized version of windows for resource and cost constrained devices with the full power of modern application development to run universal apps"

for those that don't know the modern universal apps are those apps that run on windows or phone as full screen apps.

[dterry]

Crafty_ said:

Has anyone seen any ambilight setups ?
What I want to do is take an hdmi source in to the pi (or other device) and run some software to control LED strips on the back of the TV.

Do a Google search for bobolight, it's a Xbox / Kodi plugin that can use addressable LEDs to do an ambilight style setup.

I run OpenElec on a number of pi's around the house, all linked back to a central server with the media. The server also runs a MySQL database so that the media info etc is available to all devices without them needing to scan the Internet for the info on each one. I also run a central thumbnail folder to save the local storage. If I add a new movie or music I fire up Kodi on my PC, it updates the central database and thumbnails and the pi's have the details immediately.

I did originally try raspmc, but it crashes regularly and wasn't very stable. With OpenElec inrarely have any issues.

[Tonsko]

Well, am very glad I bought 2! (One for me, one for my colleague.

After messing around with raspbian image & dd, noobs, sdcard formatter (from sdcard.org as suggested by pi support docs), I had a look at the compatible card list. I couldn't be sure whether mine was one that worked or not, as there were two very similar in the list, one of which was shown to have worked, the other not.

Last ditch attempt, I tried the new raspbian image in the other pi; hadn't previously wanted to use it as it was colleagues...and it worked perfectly, first time. So, the first pi that I tried was doa. What are the chances.

[Tonsko]

This is very strange. So, when I used the first board, I plugged the keyb/mouse into the 'top' two usb sockets. On the second board, I used the 'bottom' two - i.e. nearer the mainboard. So I wondered whether it could have been a power issue with the first one, and swapped the boards again, put keyb/mouse into bottom sockets of first...and it booted!

Then I replaced keyb/mouse into top usb sockets (of supposedly broken one) and it booted again.

Any ideas as to why it only booted after I used the card in a different pi?

[Du1point8]

If you want to know the latest on the windows 10 RPi, you could do worse than to follow Scott Hanselman, he knows his stuff and is a major player at Microsoft.

http://www.hanselman.com/blog/TheNewRaspberryPi2Wi...

[Tonsko]

Ok, I reckon it was a power supply issue.No idea why one worked and another didn't, perhaps tolerances were more stringent on one than the other. Anyway, now using a more powerful output and it seems to be working fine.

[paulrockliffe]

Does the new Pi give the option for optical audio output? I'm using PIs and a server for Kodi around the house, pretty much as above.

I've just got round to setting up surround sound on my TV and realised that the TV's optical output is only 2.0 unless the source is the TV's digital tuner. I had intended to HDMI in 5.1 to the TV and optical to the amp, but it looks like I need to skip the middle-man to get 5.1 from the PI to the Amp.

I don't really want to have to buy anything more expensive if I can avoid it.

For the chap with the server above, I've got a similar setup, but I've got a Kodi install on the server (which gets used to supply a distribution amplifier that covers the ceiling speakers around the house) if you use the Yatse Remote on Android you can one-click update your library without having to mess about with PCs etc.

[marctwo]

paulrockliffe said:

Does the new Pi give the option for optical audio output? I'm using PIs and a server for Kodi around the house, pretty much as above.

I've just got round to setting up surround sound on my TV and realised that the TV's optical output is only 2.0 unless the source is the TV's digital tuner. I had intended to HDMI in 5.1 to the TV and optical to the amp, but it looks like I need to skip the middle-man to get 5.1 from the PI to the Amp.

I don't really want to have to buy anything more expensive if I can avoid it.

For the chap with the server above, I've got a similar setup, but I've got a Kodi install on the server (which gets used to supply a distribution amplifier that covers the ceiling speakers around the house) if you use the Yatse Remote on Android you can one-click update your library without having to mess about with PCs etc.

If it's supported by OpenELEC / Raspbmc / OSMC then this would do the job:

https://www.hifiberry.com/digiplus/