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annodomini2

4,766 posts

120 months

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james_tigerwoods said:
I wonder how many people will actually use it for what it's intended - me, I just want to use it as a media player to provide a link between my NAS and HDMI TV....
I will, but I'm a Software Engineer.

Zad

8,706 posts

105 months

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I think the crucial thing is to sell units, and get them into homes. Once they are there, a proportion of people using them as XBMC boxes will inevitably wonder what else they can do with it. To my mind, some sort of app store is needed in order to bring all the available software together where more casual users and developers can see it.

annodomini2

4,766 posts

120 months

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Zad said:
I think the crucial thing is to sell units, and get them into homes. Once they are there, a proportion of people using them as XBMC boxes will inevitably wonder what else they can do with it. To my mind, some sort of app store is needed in order to bring all the available software together where more casual users and developers can see it.
It runs linux, there is already an app store, it's called sourceforge.net.

0000

9,314 posts

60 months

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Or better yet as it runs Debian; Synaptic with 10s of thousands of apps available for mouse clickers.

Timsta

2,139 posts

115 months

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james_tigerwoods said:
I wonder how many people will actually use it for what it's intended - me, I just want to use it as a media player to provide a link between my NAS and HDMI TV....
I won't even use a screen on it for what I need. As far as I'm concerned, all I need is a small cheap powerful machine with usb.
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TotalControl

6,249 posts

67 months

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Just got my email saying the first batch have been shipped by RS.

I'm not the first batch. frown

I'm not sure if I care anymore tbh. Maybe it's just me?

va1o

11,551 posts

76 months

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RobCrezz said:
james_tigerwoods said:
I wonder how many people will actually use it for what it's intended - me, I just want to use it as a media player to provide a link between my NAS and HDMI TV....
Honestly, that's the most appealing part of it for me too.
+1

Looks like it could be a perfect cut price apple tv

Lawrence5

1,128 posts

104 months

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Few on ebay already...... a few cases to house them.

Stew2000

2,512 posts

47 months

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Some of the cases look good. and there's some cases for the mental institution hehe

Mrs BlueCerbera

2,149 posts

109 months

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Got my email today - delivery expected week of 7th May bounce

Lawrence5

1,128 posts

104 months

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NOted....



Looks a bit photoshop


dxg

2,785 posts

129 months

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Zad said:
I think the crucial thing is to sell units, and get them into homes. Once they are there, a proportion of people using them as XBMC boxes will inevitably wonder what else they can do with it. To my mind, some sort of app store is needed in order to bring all the available software together where more casual users and developers can see it.
In the interview I linked above, the creator of the board says that he only expects about 1% of users to actually be children using the thing to sit down and learn how to code. He predicts that this will give 1,000 informed students heading into University to fill a gap in practical IT expertise that he is now seeing.

So the target is to sell a massive amount of the devices, fully expecting that only a tiny amount will have the effect that he is looking for. He's happy for us geeks to mess around with the boards right now because, he hopes, we'll document our experiences and build up the code base for children to replicate later on production boards sold to schools.

It;s a really good interview. It even touches on the ethics of basing the thing on a proprietary Broadcom SOC rather than something that's documented in the public domain.

Zad

8,706 posts

105 months

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annodomini2 said:
It runs linux, there is already an app store, it's called sourceforge.net.
The people the Raspberry Pi needs to (and is) targeting, are the iPhone generation. Sourceforge really isn't going to cut it in the consumer end of things. The sort of people who can cope with Sourceforge already have Linux machines and probably have had for some time.

172ff

1,403 posts

64 months

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Mrs BlueCerbera said:
Got my email today - delivery expected week of 7th May bounce
Me too!

smn159

1,258 posts

86 months

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21st May for me biggrin

rst99

151 posts

71 months

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Mrs BlueCerbera said:
Got my email today - delivery expected week of 7th May bounce
Yeah, me too. Can't wait.

tank slapper

7,743 posts

152 months

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Zad said:
The people the Raspberry Pi needs to (and is) targeting, are the iPhone generation. Sourceforge really isn't going to cut it in the consumer end of things. The sort of people who can cope with Sourceforge already have Linux machines and probably have had for some time.
Raspberry Pi isn't intended to be a consumer device - it's intended as a cheap tool for teaching development. That people want to use it as a media player is beside the point. The reason for the project is to get people poking about with the internal workings of computers, not just providing a ready made 'app store' where they won't learn anything, and is already available on other devices.

In any case, debian and most other Linux distributions already have package managers that function in a very similar way to provide already compiled software.

Toaster Pilot

7,644 posts

27 months

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dxg said:
In the interview I linked above, the creator of the board says that he only expects about 1% of users to actually be children using the thing to sit down and learn how to code. He predicts that this will give 1,000 informed students heading into University to fill a gap in practical IT expertise that he is now seeing.

So the target is to sell a massive amount of the devices, fully expecting that only a tiny amount will have the effect that he is looking for. He's happy for us geeks to mess around with the boards right now because, he hopes, we'll document our experiences and build up the code base for children to replicate later on production boards sold to schools.

It;s a really good interview. It even touches on the ethics of basing the thing on a proprietary Broadcom SOC rather than something that's documented in the public domain.
Perhaps a bit different to the intended use but I know that one of the Computer Science lecturers at my uni is looking to use it as a teaching tool for his classes (AFAIK he teaches a class at every level so 1st-4th year) and using it to teach programming at progressively advanced levels, which would certainly be an improvement on current teaching IMO (I'm in the fourth/final year of a Computer Science/Electronic Engineering degree and didn't do any work involving embedded systems until the third year!)

Stew2000

2,512 posts

47 months

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tank slapper said:
Raspberry Pi isn't intended to be a consumer device - it's intended as a cheap tool for teaching development.
It's their own fault for letting the media advertise it everywhere.

Timsta

2,139 posts

115 months

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The media never reported it as a consumer device, they always reported it as a device geared towards teaching.
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