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lenny007
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805 posts
90 months
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TheHeretic said:  Sorry, I have absolutely no idea what your problem is. Could you put down a list of your settings? A screenshot maybe, with your external IP blanked out? The temptation to head butt that wall is rather strong this evening! Right then, settings; Basic Settings Encapsulation - PPPoA Internet IP Address - Dynamically from ISP DNS Address - Automatically from ISP NAT (Network Address Transalation) - Enabled ADSL Settings Multiplexing Method - VC-Based VPI - 0 VCI - 38 Wireless Settings Region - Europe Mode - up to 300mbps @ 5ghz & 54mbps @ 2.4 ghz 11N Channel - 36 11G Channel - 9 Security - WPA-PSK Guest Networks - Disabled USB Storage Network Connection - Enabled HTTP - Enabled HTTPs (via internet) - Disabled FTP - disabled FTP (via internet) - disabled Media Server Settings - disabled Router Status Account Name Firmware Version V2.1.00.54_1.00.54 ADSL Port MAC Address ???????? IP Address ???????? Network Type PPPoA IP Subnet Mask ??????? Gateway IP Address ??????? Domain Name Server ???????? ??????? LAN Port MAC Address ??????? IP Address ??????? DHCP On IP Subnet Mask ??????? Modem ADSL Firmware Version A2pB023k.d20k_rc2 Modem Status Connected DownStream Connection Speed 10446 kbps UpStream Connection Speed 1020 kbps VPI 0 VCI 38 Wireless Port Name (11N SSID) OJS_N Name (11G SSID) JLS_G Region Europe 11N Channel 36 11G Channel 9 Mode Up to 300Mbps at 5GHz & 54Mbps at 2.4GHz Wireless AP Enabled Broadcast Name Enabled Advanced Wireless Settings Wireless Router Settings Enable Wireless Access Point YES Allow Broadcast of Name (SSID) YES Turn off wireless signal by schedule NO The wireless signal is scheduled to turn off during the following time period: Period Start End Recurrence Pattern Fragmentation Threshold (256 - 2346): CTS/RTS Threshold (1 - 2347): Preamble Mode WPS Settings Router's PIN: ??????? Disable Router's PIN Keep Existing Wireless Settings YES Wireless Station Access List WAN Setup - Connect Automatically as required MTU Size - 1458 LAN Setup RIP Version - RIP_1 RIP Direction - both Use Router as DHCP Server - YES QoS Setup Enable WMM (Wifi Multi Media Settings) - YES UPnP - ON And that's about it.
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lenny007
Original Poster
805 posts
90 months
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Digger said: Do you know anyone who can have a look into the issues with you? Heh, why do you think i'm pestering you all on here! 
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stemll
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69 months
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How many of your devices are n capable and how many of those support 5Ghz? You have a mixed mode setup with b/g on 2.4Ghz and n on 5Ghz.
5Ghz is not a requirement of the n standard so not all devices support it. Try the "Up to 300Mbps at 2.4Ghz" or the "Up to 145 Mbps at 2.4 Ghz"
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lenny007
Original Poster
805 posts
90 months
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stemll said: How many of your devices are n capable and how many of those support 5Ghz? You have a mixed mode setup with b/g on 2.4Ghz and n on 5Ghz.
5Ghz is not a requirement of the n standard so not all devices support it. Try the "Up to 300Mbps at 2.4Ghz" or the "Up to 145 Mbps at 2.4 Ghz" Finally got a chance to try this and wahey! Nope, didn't work. At what point do i basically turn around and get another different brand router?
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TheHeretic
68,020 posts
124 months
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lenny007 said: Finally got a chance to try this and wahey!
Nope, didn't work.
At what point do i basically turn around and get another different brand router? Yesterday.
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lenny007
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805 posts
90 months
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TheHeretic said: Yesterday. Had another play around and i'm now sitting on a wireless Macbook for the first time in a while. Changed the channel to purely 145 at 2.4 and we're up and running - at least on the Apple kit. The Sony is too old to have a 801.11N adaptor so won't connect and is therefore another problem in itself. We'll see how long this lasts before the norks head north for the winter.
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TheHeretic
68,020 posts
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lenny007 said: Had another play around and i'm now sitting on a wireless Macbook for the first time in a while. Changed the channel to purely 145 at 2.4 and we're up and running - at least on the Apple kit. The Sony is too old to have a 801.11N adaptor so won't connect and is therefore another problem in itself. We'll see how long this lasts before the norks head north for the winter. I know my routers both have mixed mode, (they run simultaneous G and N on 2.4), and I never had to fettle any other setting other than mixed/GN mode. Your router should be able to do the same thing. Both my time capsule, and my new cheap ass Cisco thing do this.
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lenny007
Original Poster
805 posts
90 months
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So then, didn't last too long did it?
Tried to reset the router to accept dual band again and after a night, it dropped the connection again.\
I've reset the network back to single band and with no security on it, no problem.
As that is not an option, i've added WPA security again and whilst it's not a problem connecting to the protected network via the iPad, the flaming Macbook will not connect and basically keeps saying "Connection Failed"
I've removed the network from the network preferences and the keychain, reset the Macbook and tried to reconnect to the network - still says connection failed.
So then, original problem bypassed, new one arrives.
Any suggestions, long suffering IT people?
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TheHeretic
68,020 posts
124 months
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Reset the lot, and take it back to factory defaults and start again. It should broadcast security free, and with pretty much everything off.
Make sure any filtering is off, (MAC address filtering, etc). Check whether it is using 2.4, or 5 gigglehurts.
See if all the devices can see it.
If they can all see it, then you can look at what security you can apply.
Some devices can be funny with WEP, so ideally WPA personal would be your best bet, however, I believe you said your Sony didn't like WPA, and your iPads won't be keen on WEP.
The tricky thing is getting the devices working on a security they can all use. Bit worry about that later. Whatever works, use that for the moment, and see if the connection drops, is intermittent, etc. if it is fine, maybe switch to the other security thing, and try that as well.
They to get the Sony updated to use WPA.
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lenny007
Original Poster
805 posts
90 months
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TheHeretic said: Reset the lot, and take it back to factory defaults and start again. It should broadcast security free, and with pretty much everything off.
Make sure any filtering is off, (MAC address filtering, etc). Check whether it is using 2.4, or 5 gigglehurts.
See if all the devices can see it.
If they can all see it, then you can look at what security you can apply.
Some devices can be funny with WEP, so ideally WPA personal would be your best bet, however, I believe you said your Sony didn't like WPA, and your iPads won't be keen on WEP.
The tricky thing is getting the devices working on a security they can all use. Bit worry about that later. Whatever works, use that for the moment, and see if the connection drops, is intermittent, etc. if it is fine, maybe switch to the other security thing, and try that as well.
They to get the Sony updated to use WPA. I'm going to whisper this so as not to jinx it but i've managed to fix it myself. For once. I wondered if it was the WPA that was the issue so changed it to WPA2 and funnily enough it still didn't work. However, when i tried to connect, it didn't state "Connection Failed" but "Connection Timeout". So i accessed the keychain and double clicked the network. The WPA2 password wasn't showing so i entered it and it connected straight away. Rebooted the Mac and it's still connected. I'll be able to get all of the Apple kit connecting this way and will get a 'N' adaptor for the Sony tomorrow. I've got most of everything i own crossed that this works and i don't have to get another new router.
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Digger
5,724 posts
60 months
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 See . . . you didnt really need our help after all 
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69 coupe
1,595 posts
80 months
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Does this mean their was nothing wrong with your orginal router where you stated in you first post that the new one failed the same as the old. Anyway well done 
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TheHeretic
68,020 posts
124 months
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lenny007 said: I'm going to whisper this so as not to jinx it but i've managed to fix it myself. For once.
I wondered if it was the WPA that was the issue so changed it to WPA2 and funnily enough it still didn't work. However, when i tried to connect, it didn't state "Connection Failed" but "Connection Timeout".
So i accessed the keychain and double clicked the network. The WPA2 password wasn't showing so i entered it and it connected straight away. Rebooted the Mac and it's still connected.
I'll be able to get all of the Apple kit connecting this way and will get a 'N' adaptor for the Sony tomorrow.
I've got most of everything i own crossed that this works and i don't have to get another new router. I don't believe you. You'll be here today or tomorrow crying into your pillow. Mark my words, young fellow!
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lenny007
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805 posts
90 months
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69 coupe said: Does this mean their was nothing wrong with your orginal router where you stated in you first post that the new one failed the same as the old. Anyway well done Nope, that had actually gone west. Once i got it up and running without any encryption, it wouldn't connect to the net.
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lenny007
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805 posts
90 months
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TheHeretic said: I don't believe you. You'll be here today or tomorrow crying into your pillow. Mark my words, young fellow! you could well be right. I've still got the Sony to get up and running yet...
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TheHeretic
68,020 posts
124 months
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lenny007 said: you could well be right. I've still got the Sony to get up and running yet... Fear not. I purchased a Sony viaoaiaoaiaoaiaio last week, and the wireless adapter thing in its gizzards already require resetting every few days. It's not just you with an urge to open your book of disappointments, and start jotting stuff down.
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lenny007
Original Poster
805 posts
90 months
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I'm baaack!!!!!
Actually, it's not that bad as i seemingly have everything (nearly) up and running.
The Netgear adaptor i bought this evening (WNA1100 FYI) was predictably not helpful. Easy to set up, could see the network but could it connect? Could it fook.
Tried it with WPA, WPA2, mix of both and finally no encryption whatsoever. Just sat there, smugly, scanning away like some form of git.
So i tried something different. Set up a guest network using WEP (yes, i know) and lo and behold, the Sony connected no problem.
So i'm sitting with the Macbook, Mac Mini, Sony, iPhone and iPad all connected. Went to set up the Apple TV and it logged on no problem. Went to try and connect the xbmc to the NAS and it all went norks up and i had to reset the router.
Which got me thinking...
When i started having all the problems with the router / network was when i was setting up the NAS (originally via homeplugs which i thought were faulty as the network kept crashing..)
Is it beyond the realms of possibility that the reason for all of my problems has something to do with the NAS itself?
I've disconnected it as a matter of course to see how long the network remains stable but surely this isn't the crux of the matter?
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TheHeretic
68,020 posts
124 months
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Have you tried hardwiring the NAS?
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lenny007
Original Poster
805 posts
90 months
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TheHeretic said: Have you tried hardwiring the NAS? Other than connecting to the router via an ethernet cable, no.
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TheHeretic
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124 months
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lenny007 said: Other than connecting to the router via an ethernet cable, no. Why not try that? If the NAS is molesting the wireless stuff somehonw, (no idea how it would), try and take it out of the wireless equation, and hardwire it. It's a NAS, I'm sure it can sit near the router. I'm not sure how it would effect it. Do you have your IP address range set for something silly? I have mine set on the default 50. Is you'rs on something low, so it has to boot something off?  You are not the only one with router issues, by the way. I was banging my head against the wall earlier when I was trying to sort out DHCP reservations. Nut was truly done in. Figured it out in the end though.
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