It has all to do with Facebook because obviously apple is working around the clock for 15 year olds ffs, while I'm looking at my 4k sound system and wondering why I can't play music from my iPad/iPhone/mbp ( now sold ) , why I can't delete/make playlists from phone or just maybe give me some freedom to basic things like who provides the weather on that widget thing and finally why I don't have google turn by turn on my apple phone

Please lower your tone, your read like a mongrel

No, it is not all about Facebook. You're getting paranoid or strange over something that does not affect you if you do not have a Facebook account, use Facebook, or are not interested in Facebook. All it does is add an extra option in a drop down menu. What on earth does that have to do with your freedom? You are free to not use it. They did the same thing for twitter. Lots of people use twitter, so it was added in the very same drop down menu.



That is it. Oh noes, an extra option in a drop down menu... The sky is falling, or something.

You want widgets. Go and buy a phone or tablet that has widgets. I've said before I don't particularly see the point of widgets on either a phone, or even a tablet. I don't spend my time staring at the home screens of either. If I want something like that, there are plenty of apps out there, such as this...



There are plenty of others that will give you weather, RSS feeds, twitter, and so on.

As to why you don't have google turn by turn on your iPhone... Ask google? It is their app. Don't fret though, as apple have a turn by turn nav thing coming in iOS6 that doesn't rely on an outside company.

Why can't you create a playlist on your phone? No idea. Ask apple.

As for your 4k system, and it not being ale to play music from your iPod/iPad/MBP, I suggest you either have done little in the way of research, or spent 4k on a system that doesn't accept simply input, (aux cable/optical in). Only you can answer that. A dock, airport express, a simple 3.5 mm lead? Who knows how you could have done it. An airport express would have meant that you could send your music wirelessly from your iOS/OSX devices directly, over your home network, using AirPlay, and have an optical connection to your system. How were you expecting to connect your device?

Lower my tone? Sound like a mongrel? Maybe if you didn't come across as some disgruntled, angst ridden teenager, you'd receive a little more respect.

Bear in mind iOS 6 is probably 2-3 months away from being Gold standard (ready for general release), so there's time to polish the maps.
Alternatively, there's less info at that scale, but as you zoom in to the next pre-defined scale level, it becomes more populated with street names and whatnot.
Only time will tell if that image actually means anything in the grand scheme of things.

To me, there's something not 100% about the images used - the scales seem off.
In fact, I've played with overlaying the Google on the Apple one, and it is quite a bit different for the positioning of the roads when the river is lined up as much as it can be.
So I wouldn't be championing Google Maps just yet.

A 'what supports what' chart for iOS 6


I've got an iPhone 4 so I've never had Siri anyway, not sure why a 4 can't do turn by turn sat nav in the maps though.

Well, there are apps out there that do it, so no need to upgrade.

Agreed, but Apple (naturally) want you to upgrade.

Of course, but I feel it also starts to piss loyal Apple fans off, those that don't have the ability to upgrade. I have co-pilot on my 4 so won't need the turn by turn nav but 3G FaceTime for chatting to the other half would be nice. But not nice enough for me to go and upgrade to the 4S just for the shower of stes to announce an iPhone 5.

True, but if they don't do it, they'll always be dependent, and that's what they don't want. I suspect in the beginning a lot of data will be missing, but if the userbase is vast enough, the data will fill up pretty quickly.

Also, I use maps ALL the time (at least two times a day), but I can understand that isn't a deal breaker for a lot of people (for me it is though), and maybe even few would notice the difference in the location info. I don't think this benefits the user in any way, but I do think it's a logical step from apple.

I'm also curious as to Google's response to this on the iDevices: 1) Will it provide an app (I certainly hope so) and 2) Will it be free? (knowing google it will be, as they profit more from use than from purchases)

Hmm possible, like I said, that probably won't be a deal breaker for a lot of people (it will be for some I guess though), but still, not very user-friendly.
Also, maps offers, for one, "street view" and a sattelite view, I know Apple won't provide street view (initially), but will they provide sattelite view?

If not, the google app would stand a chance as it offers a lot that the default app doesn't.
Oh and as for the browsers, aren't they basically another skin over the same Webkit?

Not so sure about that. TomTom will need a LOT of work to get anywhere near Google's services. Google's built in NAV is already brilliant, and able to mix the streetview with the interface. Furthermore, Google has access to all the data from their various web services..... and I dont see TomTom (or Apple) trying to replicate that. If this is a war they want, its silly, because ultimately the user will choose one, and while Apple's device penetration is massive, globally they still a drop in the ocean to those that use google.

Poor little victims.