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va1o
11,551 posts
76 months
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MorrisCRX said: how so? UI will just be scaled. You can customise it. Basically has a choice of running at 1440 x 900, 1680 x 1050 or 1920 x 1200 scaled to fill the display. Using the latter would give a lot of real estate!
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MorrisCRX
585 posts
62 months
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ah so not the 2880x1800 then. Theres a ballance between UI real estate and functionality (when clicking menus/icons, reading track info, commandline, properties boxes). I feel that 1920x1200 on a 15" display may be a bit much on the small side to be usable on a lot of software (where you dont use hotkeys all the time) I'd have to see one in action on none apple software I guess.
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qube_TA
6,615 posts
114 months
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MorrisCRX said: qube_TA said: The higher resolution gives you a lot more desktop real estate to play with. how so? UI will just be scaled. depends upon software, most of my audio plug-ins GUI's don't scale so are drawn as a 1-1 resolution so I can't fit most of them on the screen. Having a higher resolution will make a significant difference.
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MorrisCRX
585 posts
62 months
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qube_TA said: MorrisCRX said: qube_TA said: The higher resolution gives you a lot more desktop real estate to play with. how so? UI will just be scaled. depends upon software, most of my audio plug-ins GUI's don't scale so are drawn as a 1-1 resolution so I can't fit most of them on the screen. Having a higher resolution will make a significant difference. The OS scales it. 1920x1200 it seems
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Another Fluffer
3,594 posts
34 months
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I want one 
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x5x3
1,477 posts
122 months
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I think Apple have made a mistake here - this should be called the 15 inch MBA and not the 15 inch MBP with retina display.
Just to clarify, I'm not suggesting they really made a mistake - they will sell millions of these - but it would have been far clearer to everyone.
MBA = no upgrade options
MBP = fully upgradeable
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toxicnerve
5,260 posts
46 months
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x5x3 said: I think Apple have made a mistake here - this should be called the 15 inch MBA and not the 15 inch MBP with retina display.
Just to clarify, I'm not suggesting they really made a mistake - they will sell millions of these - but it would have been far clearer to everyone.
MBA = no upgrade options
MBP = fully upgradeable That's actually a very insightful post. Makes a change from the reactionary, iFan type stuff. j/k 
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qube_TA
6,615 posts
114 months
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MorrisCRX said: qube_TA said: MorrisCRX said: qube_TA said: The higher resolution gives you a lot more desktop real estate to play with. how so? UI will just be scaled. depends upon software, most of my audio plug-ins GUI's don't scale so are drawn as a 1-1 resolution so I can't fit most of them on the screen. Having a higher resolution will make a significant difference. The OS scales it. 1920x1200 it seems I doubt it would work for plugs as they'd need to be specifically written to scale like that, given that they're ported to work on different OS'es and DAW's I can't really see it happening, maybe with Logic itself. here's the problem on my machine:  Can only get about half of that Moog plug on the screen at once.
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gmasterfunk
71 posts
17 months
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Dave 500
1,966 posts
111 months
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I hope they don't stop making the old one No CD drive No network socket No firewire No lock slot No line In Really really rubbish storage. I know it has two thunder ports but...... Not really very good.
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TheHeretic
67,880 posts
124 months
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gmasterfunk said: Lack of storage? Is 768gb not enough? The other MacBooks have a TB, but they are HDD, and a thicker computer.
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RobDickinson
15,224 posts
123 months
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MorrisCRX said: ah so not the 2880x1800 then. Nope. 2880x1800 is pure marketing bulls  t by counting non addressable screen elements. The computer will see 1080p resolution display is all.
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x5x3
1,477 posts
122 months
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TheHeretic said: Lack of storage? Is 768gb not enough? The other MacBooks have a TB, but they are HDD, and a thicker computer. not enough for everyone - and again there are no upgrade options - it does not deserve the MBP name
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RobDickinson
15,224 posts
123 months
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The new MBP has thunderbolt though doesnt it? You can effectively plug in fast extra storage, network or graphics using this. Though not extra ram.
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x5x3
1,477 posts
122 months
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RobDickinson said: The new MBP has thunderbolt though doesnt it? You can effectively plug in fast extra storage, network or graphics using this. Though not extra ram. true - but maybe not a "portable" then is it? If we wanted a desktop...
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RobDickinson
15,224 posts
123 months
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I think they are assuming you wont use your laptop for storing your 5000 movie rips.
Its got enough storage for working os, apps and data with some movies,pics and music.
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va1o
11,551 posts
76 months
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To me it is pretty much the perfect modern day laptop. I don't really understand why people want masses of local storage, I keep most data either on my NAS, External drive or in the Cloud... not locally. Likewise with optical drives, they are used so infrequently these days that its omission does not matter.
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x5x3
1,477 posts
122 months
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this topic is about MBP - that is a model for "professionals" - i.e people who use the MBP for work not pleasure.
MBA = pleasure/personal
MBP = work
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qube_TA
6,615 posts
114 months
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I like a lot of local storage for my tune stuff, my MBP has a 750GB hybrid SATA drive in it, with all my software installed there's about 300GB free for projects. Don't really want to carry around extra drives and it ramps up the cost for a TB caddy. It's a laptop so I want it portable. Network stuff is too slow to be viable for that sort of thing, fine for itunes and whatnot though.
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x5x3
1,477 posts
122 months
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va1o said: To me it is pretty much the perfect modern day laptop. I don't really understand why people want masses of local storage, I keep most data either on my NAS, External drive or in the Cloud... not locally. Likewise with optical drives, they are used so infrequently these days that its omission does not matter. exactly - so you are a consumer and not a "pro", you need a 15 inch MBA not a 15 inch MBP, MBP is used by those who need masses of video storage or masses of VM storage, plus of course RAM and CPU - not a criticism but just a fact
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