New Tablet manufactured by Microsoft - 'Surface'
Discussion
HeatonNorris said:
But the Android market is very fractured and incredibly frustrating. Android is largely an unfinished product that isn't ready (even now) for mainstream release - and many tablet manufacturers are putting increasingly bloated versions of Android on under-powered hardware to steal a march on the competition. This is all before you start looking at app stores.
If MS get this right, both they and Apple will dominate the market for years to come.
yep I agree, we have a transformer and its buggy since ICS and half of the apps either dont work or dont work well.If MS get this right, both they and Apple will dominate the market for years to come.
This is the only way Microsoft will get any decent market share. An os designed for specific hardware will always be better than a general release that supports everything.
supporting all that hardware made Microsoft a success, but also made windows a complete crock of crap all at the same time.
supporting all that hardware made Microsoft a success, but also made windows a complete crock of crap all at the same time.
We've had one of the build Samsung i5 win8 devices here for months. It mostly sits in its dock and works like any other PC, but you can pick the screen up and take it out as a tablet. the hardware is a bit chunky and not so polished but its as capable as most workplace PC's already.
Be very interested in the pro surface with a BT pressure sensitive stylus too.
Be very interested in the pro surface with a BT pressure sensitive stylus too.
RobDickinson said:
Yep and in a matter of days android tablets will have more market share.
Not according the latest bits out, Android tablet share is going into reverse.http://www.redorbit.com/news/technology/1112609633...
JDRoest said:
Not according the latest bits out, Android tablet share is going into reverse.
http://www.redorbit.com/news/technology/1112609633...
Haha see, things can change quickly..http://www.redorbit.com/news/technology/1112609633...
I can see this selling within the business / corporate world.
One of the largest issues I see with the iPad is that you can't join onto a domain, the only way to get applications on it with out going through third party software is to use the app store.
With the windows 8 tablet. They will be able to join the domain so security will be corporate level. Anti virus will be able to be installed. I'm sure they will be able to be encrypted with something like bitlocker.
The biggest win in my eyes is the simple way that a business can controll the safe deployment of applications through something like microsoft SCCM 2012 (or other software delivery mech)
One of the largest issues I see with the iPad is that you can't join onto a domain, the only way to get applications on it with out going through third party software is to use the app store.
With the windows 8 tablet. They will be able to join the domain so security will be corporate level. Anti virus will be able to be installed. I'm sure they will be able to be encrypted with something like bitlocker.
The biggest win in my eyes is the simple way that a business can controll the safe deployment of applications through something like microsoft SCCM 2012 (or other software delivery mech)
Bit of info as to enterprise capability of iOS for folks information. No idea about any of that stuff, however.
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TheHeretic said:
Bit of info as to enterprise capability of iOS for folks information. No idea about any of that stuff, however.
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Not an enterprise man then? Meaningless gobbledygook
Podie said:
Not an enterprise man then?
Hell no. We use Redhat at work, which makes me want to punch it on a daily basis and what with it being in the middle of the ocean, that's all we have, except for dial up speed satellite Internet webs that may or may not be working, maybe, depending on the temperature of the coffeepot, or the size of the swell.
My iPad is just for meeeeee!
TheHeretic said:
Bit of info as to enterprise capability of iOS for folks information. No idea about any of that stuff, however.
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We have several iPads set-up here.Meaningless gobbledygook
The main problem seems to be when someone brings their iPad to a meeting -not needing a laptop apparently-, is when someone says: I posted an updated file on the location \\x\y\z.
In fact, that's one of the main questions we get on a nearly daily basis. A "true" Windows tablet would solve this for us. I don't know if the ARM would do this, but I think it'll have the same kind of limitations the iPad has.
It's a good device for the sofa, and does nearly everything you'd want at home, but on the workfloor you meet the limitations pretty fast. A full-Windows tablet, like the i5 one is supposed to be, could be the answer for us.
It's just such a shame that W8 looks like it was designed by the chaps at Tomy's 'My First...' design department.
Wonder what res the display is on the surface as the new retina display is a massive draw for many people. Having finally had a play with one I'm very tempted to replace my transformer with an ipad3.
Wonder what res the display is on the surface as the new retina display is a massive draw for many people. Having finally had a play with one I'm very tempted to replace my transformer with an ipad3.
ZesPak said:
We have several iPads set-up here.
The main problem seems to be when someone brings their iPad to a meeting -not needing a laptop apparently-, is when someone says: I posted an updated file on the location \\x\y\z.
In fact, that's one of the main questions we get on a nearly daily basis. A "true" Windows tablet would solve this for us. I don't know if the ARM would do this, but I think it'll have the same kind of limitations the iPad has.
It's a good device for the sofa, and does nearly everything you'd want at home, but on the workfloor you meet the limitations pretty fast. A full-Windows tablet, like the i5 one is supposed to be, could be the answer for us.
Could they not just use a file manager app to grab the files they want on the computer in question, just as I can access my own computer, or other peoples computers, on the network, or over the Internet? Like this...The main problem seems to be when someone brings their iPad to a meeting -not needing a laptop apparently-, is when someone says: I posted an updated file on the location \\x\y\z.
In fact, that's one of the main questions we get on a nearly daily basis. A "true" Windows tablet would solve this for us. I don't know if the ARM would do this, but I think it'll have the same kind of limitations the iPad has.
It's a good device for the sofa, and does nearly everything you'd want at home, but on the workfloor you meet the limitations pretty fast. A full-Windows tablet, like the i5 one is supposed to be, could be the answer for us.
Job jobbed. It can access all sorts of servers, cloud based storage, webDAV, FTP, SSH, etc...
For corporates who have already invested heavily in to perimeter security / group policy / controlled desktop, I can imagine this flying off the shelves. If it runs half decently and provides a good user experience, companies wishing to retain control will love it.
In an office environment, MS products on Apple products are awful. If and when Office for Ipad is released, then perhaps that will address some of the current shortcomings.
I'm a fan.
In an office environment, MS products on Apple products are awful. If and when Office for Ipad is released, then perhaps that will address some of the current shortcomings.
I'm a fan.
TheHeretic said:
ZesPak said:
We have several iPads set-up here.
The main problem seems to be when someone brings their iPad to a meeting -not needing a laptop apparently-, is when someone says: I posted an updated file on the location \\x\y\z.
In fact, that's one of the main questions we get on a nearly daily basis. A "true" Windows tablet would solve this for us. I don't know if the ARM would do this, but I think it'll have the same kind of limitations the iPad has.
It's a good device for the sofa, and does nearly everything you'd want at home, but on the workfloor you meet the limitations pretty fast. A full-Windows tablet, like the i5 one is supposed to be, could be the answer for us.
Could they not just use a file manager app to grab the files they want on the computer in question, just as I can access my own computer, or other peoples computers, on the network, or over the Internet? Like this...The main problem seems to be when someone brings their iPad to a meeting -not needing a laptop apparently-, is when someone says: I posted an updated file on the location \\x\y\z.
In fact, that's one of the main questions we get on a nearly daily basis. A "true" Windows tablet would solve this for us. I don't know if the ARM would do this, but I think it'll have the same kind of limitations the iPad has.
It's a good device for the sofa, and does nearly everything you'd want at home, but on the workfloor you meet the limitations pretty fast. A full-Windows tablet, like the i5 one is supposed to be, could be the answer for us.
Job jobbed. It can access all sorts of servers, cloud based storage, webDAV, FTP, SSH, etc...
GregE240 said:
For corporates who have already invested heavily in to perimeter security / group policy / controlled desktop, I can imagine this flying off the shelves. If it runs half decently and provides a good user experience, companies wishing to retain control will love it.
In an office environment, MS products on Apple products are awful. If and when Office for Ipad is released, then perhaps that will address some of the current shortcomings.
I'm a fan.
The nay issue I can see with the i5 tablets, is cooling. It's all very well having a laptop whirring away, but a tablet tends to be quite confined, and closed. Having fans and vent ports may make it 'odd', and you may as well buy an ultra book. Has cooling advanced to the point where that would not be an issue? In an office environment, MS products on Apple products are awful. If and when Office for Ipad is released, then perhaps that will address some of the current shortcomings.
I'm a fan.
Podie said:
thehawk said:
As for corporates buying this sort of tech - well that's not really a good market to rely on as we move towards BYOD or consumer choice of devices.
You say that, but only today one of our users complained PowerPoint (Northern user, obviously)
I fackin' hate PowerPoint, me.
ZesPak said:
We have several iPads set-up here.
The main problem seems to be when someone brings their iPad to a meeting -not needing a laptop apparently-, is when someone says: I posted an updated file on the location \\x\y\z.
In fact, that's one of the main questions we get on a nearly daily basis. A "true" Windows tablet would solve this for us. I don't know if the ARM would do this, but I think it'll have the same kind of limitations the iPad has.
It's a good device for the sofa, and does nearly everything you'd want at home, but on the workfloor you meet the limitations pretty fast. A full-Windows tablet, like the i5 one is supposed to be, could be the answer for us.
Which is why I've mostly seen full deployments of iPad devices using some form of terminal service/rdp to...you guessed it, a windows enviro.The main problem seems to be when someone brings their iPad to a meeting -not needing a laptop apparently-, is when someone says: I posted an updated file on the location \\x\y\z.
In fact, that's one of the main questions we get on a nearly daily basis. A "true" Windows tablet would solve this for us. I don't know if the ARM would do this, but I think it'll have the same kind of limitations the iPad has.
It's a good device for the sofa, and does nearly everything you'd want at home, but on the workfloor you meet the limitations pretty fast. A full-Windows tablet, like the i5 one is supposed to be, could be the answer for us.
I'm keen on replacing a whole swath of laptops with the pro version for front desk staff. As said above, this is far more in keeping with our domain security and management needs.
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