New Tablet manufactured by Microsoft - 'Surface'
Discussion
TheHeretic said:
Ah, so it's all about the name? 
The point being that there have been many handheld type devices. Many failed, some were OK, some took off.
Something of a semantic argument, but the font of Internet knowledge (wikif The point being that there have been many handheld type devices. Many failed, some were OK, some took off. 
kingpedia) calls the Newton a PDA. Agree with your point though. The MS tablet was s
t. The iPad isn't. TheHeretic said:
That sounds awful. Imagine being a developer and having to use the latest version of scode. You are more than welcome to use photobucket, flickr, and the like for photographs, and contacts and calendars can be done with google, and so on.
The 'apple way' or no way seems to me to be a bit of a myth. You don't even need to use iTunes these days. Sharepod, media monkey, or even just have the device 'as is'.
Heres an example of Apple forcing you to do everything the Apple way: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/apple/iphone-5-dumping-d...The 'apple way' or no way seems to me to be a bit of a myth. You don't even need to use iTunes these days. Sharepod, media monkey, or even just have the device 'as is'.
dxg said:
To me, the pen on the i5 is what may clinch it for me. The brief look at Windows 8 desktop even looked passible, despite aero being lost.
I've been waiting for a tablet pc that actually works as being able to write on documents is massively helpful for me work. This may well be the tablet to truly penetrate the business sector. Price will be a factor, obviously. And the actual specs - battery life being something that's not been mentioned, for example.
Asus Eee Pad Slate EP121 - it's been doing that for almost a year now, if not longer, albeit with Win7.I've been waiting for a tablet pc that actually works as being able to write on documents is massively helpful for me work. This may well be the tablet to truly penetrate the business sector. Price will be a factor, obviously. And the actual specs - battery life being something that's not been mentioned, for example.
Edited by PJ S on Saturday 23 June 04:15
bosshog said:
Heres an example of Apple forcing you to do everything the Apple way: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/apple/iphone-5-dumping-d...
Don't see your point.The alternative is a several separate sockets.
The Apple 'dock' connector delivers:
Power, audio, HDMI, VGA, Composite Video, remote control, and data. Probably other stuff, too.
Micro / Mini USB can't do all of the above. The dock connector can and does.
HeatonNorris said:
bosshog said:
Heres an example of Apple forcing you to do everything the Apple way: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/apple/iphone-5-dumping-d...
Don't see your point.The alternative is a several separate sockets.
The Apple 'dock' connector delivers:
Power, audio, HDMI, VGA, Composite Video, remote control, and data. Probably other stuff, too.
Micro / Mini USB can't do all of the above. The dock connector can and does.
Sadly MS have really not released enough information favouring a "fluff" presentation featuring one of the devices failing. Having said that and without wishing to remember the Zune too much I'd like to know:
1) How much will either version cost?
2) What are the realistic chances that apps will be developed for both versions to stop, for example, the ARM version becoming a dead end?
3) When Windows 9 arrives will they drop it like a hot potatoe and release a new version (witness Windows 7 phone not working on Winodws 8 phone devices)?
Personally I'd suspect the ARM version will tank. I can't see it competing with current offerings. The "full fat" version stands a reasonable chance due to it's Windows 8 underpinnings and Intel architecture but will live or die by it's pricing and performance.
From our enterprise perspective Surface is being discussed now; we've discounted the ARM version as we don't see the pick up being significant enough. The Intel version is something we'll evaluate but we've already gone down the iPad route which may be an issue for some other companies i.e. MS are running not just months behind the curve but years.
1) How much will either version cost?
2) What are the realistic chances that apps will be developed for both versions to stop, for example, the ARM version becoming a dead end?
3) When Windows 9 arrives will they drop it like a hot potatoe and release a new version (witness Windows 7 phone not working on Winodws 8 phone devices)?
Personally I'd suspect the ARM version will tank. I can't see it competing with current offerings. The "full fat" version stands a reasonable chance due to it's Windows 8 underpinnings and Intel architecture but will live or die by it's pricing and performance.
From our enterprise perspective Surface is being discussed now; we've discounted the ARM version as we don't see the pick up being significant enough. The Intel version is something we'll evaluate but we've already gone down the iPad route which may be an issue for some other companies i.e. MS are running not just months behind the curve but years.
I picked up a 1st gen Pro from the recent XP upgrade offer. For 359 with touch cover I thought it was good value. It means I spend less time at home on the computer as I’m not sitting at my desk and waiting for stuff to start up. I was a bit of a cheapskate and only got the 64gb. In hindsight I would have got the 128gb. I have moved my recovery drive to USB to free up space which helps.
ofcorsa said:
I picked up a 1st gen Pro from the recent XP upgrade offer. For 359 with touch cover I thought it was good value. It means I spend less time at home on the computer as I’m not sitting at my desk and waiting for stuff to start up. I was a bit of a cheapskate and only got the 64gb. In hindsight I would have got the 128gb. I have moved my recovery drive to USB to free up space which helps.
64GB is quite cramped!How bout a 64GB SD card for data (photo's, movies,...)? They're pretty cheap now.
ZesPak said:
64GB is quite cramped!
How bout a 64GB SD card for data (photo's, movies,...)? They're pretty cheap now.
Yeah I didn't realise how large the windows install was. I've got about 30gb free on the drive now and I do use a SD card for storage. I don't sync one drive locally and everything is stored on the cloud so space shouldn't be an issue now. How bout a 64GB SD card for data (photo's, movies,...)? They're pretty cheap now.
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