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silent k

682 posts

101 months

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Back in the 80's my Dad used to use one of these for work :



I remember trying to figure out how the hell I could program it to do anything! I think I managed to get it to print to the screen but that was about it!

dcb

4,465 posts

135 months

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UnderTheRadar said:
I've done punched cards and paper tape - Fortran anyone? Happily things have moved on...
I think I still have some shoeboxes full of
punched cards with some "interesting" programs.
ICL Algol IIRC.

I think I've got rid of the reels of paper tape.
It always broke anyway. IBM APL maybe.

Modern day Fortran is pretty good. Certainly
better than C and C++ for multi-core machines.



FlossyThePig

2,469 posts

113 months

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UnderTheRadar said:
I've done punched cards and paper tape - Fortran anyone? Happily things have moved on...
Does anybody know where I can get one of these from.

Jaldi

704 posts

105 months

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TheHeretic said:
Portable computing program from 1985.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1a7_1340865657
Blimey. How things have moved on! Makes you wonder what the near(ish) future holds.



Back when I was at school only the really clever kids were allowed near the the computers.

In '89 I was working in a DIY store selling kitchens and they used a Tandon PC clone for designing kitchen layouts. It had an attached Roland plotter rather than a printer for outputting the 3D views of the designed kitchen layout. The plotter used to attract crowds of people when it was doing a drawing. People were really Wowed by seeing the plotter's mechanical arm going back and forth picking up different colour pens and slowly (very slowly by today's standards) building up the picture.

I'd never even touched a computer before I got the kitchen selling job and I quickly became fascinated by computers. So much so that I couldn't stop messing about with its settings and trying to understand what was going on when it was booting up.

8086? 4Mhz Processor? 512KB RAM? 20MB Hard Disk? PC-DOS 3.1? I didn't know what any of things meant as they flashed up on the monochrome Amber screen, but they sure sounded impressive to me.

I read up a bit about PCs but I regularly broke ours by messing bout with 'autoexec.bat' and 'config.sys' and had to have the 'engineer' come down from Head Office to fix it.

We had that Tandon PC for donkey's years, and it wasn't exactly new when I started work there. In, maybe, 1991/1992 I had to take some paperwork up to the auditors who had set up camp in an office upstairs. They were using this new fangled system called Microsoft Windows 3.0 - I was shocked when I saw it: it had a 256 colour screen, something called a mouse and odd little pictures on the screen called Icons. I wanted a system like that so badly I ached.

Later I convinced myself that I needed a PC at home and blew a months wages on a state of the art 16Mhz 386 ICL PC with a 40MB hard disk. It was massive but the 64K colour screen was more impressive to me than 1080P was when I first saw it a few years ago. My missus went mental when I came home with it and I started setting it up. Back then almost nobody had PCs in their house (I'm sure some people did, but nobody we knew of). She thought I was mad.

Well, the missus is long gone but the love of computers has remained. I got banned from driving in the late '90s so I couldn't go out on the road to measure up for kitchens. So the company gave me a job in their IT Dept and trained me up to be an analyst/programmer (perhaps ironically, on Unix systems rather than Windows). I'm still in that kind of work now, though not with the same firm these days.

So anyway, thank you '80s technology; you changed my life.

Famous Graham

26,541 posts

95 months

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Similar story for me, albeit replace plotter with miniframe and 87 with...umm...88 biggrin

I was 16 and working in the summer at my dad's office, where we had an informix db on a miniframe setup - 5 dumb terminals with your typical green & black screen (no amber here, we were *posh*) dumb terminals. I started messing about seeing if I could change field labels, create reports etc. All the while fecking up the inbound connection from our one field based sales rep who dialled in over modem (a whizzy 2400 when home modems were 1200/75).

Next thing I know, I'd volunteered to replace everything with PCs and a server, and a Visual Dbase application. There was some serious parental leeway, don't get me wrong, but I got the whole office kitted out with DX 20s (can't remember the brand, but it was the time of Viglen et al) and coax networking and "wrote" (see the word Visual) database replacement

It was st biggrin

5 years later, after gentle encouragement from the parents to go actually learn something, I came back and replaced everything with an Access version.

That was crap, too. Monumentally so.

My final attempt, between support contracts, was a PHP and MySQL revision about 8 years ago. It's still being used today. I was so ahead of my time biggrin

However...not one platform has beaten the Informix miniframe for ease of entry and data manipulation. It's just that you can do other things with the PCs now.

Returning to the topic at hand, though - it struck me the other day, as I wandered from my living room to my kitchen, while still watching Top Gear on the tablet in my hand, just how far we have come, and how much we take for granted. Watch your average 1990-2000 scifi show, like Star Trek TNG, and things like touch screens, truly mobile platforms etc, all the day to day stuff they had, are now a reality.

It's only the wilder stuff (transporters, thus replicators too, warp speed etc) that we don't have. I'd *never* have forseen the tablet I'm typing on right now, or streaming a film (paused in front of me, also right now while I type) 15 years ago, let alone 20.

Who cares if Mosler never get that bloody car licenced, we have our toys, they just crept up on us - I cannot wait to see what the next 10 years brings, let alone the next 30.
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Puggit

29,670 posts

118 months

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boxst said:
I had one of these for work:

Ahhh, the Compaq Luggable - I used it play Pistop 2

Blown2CV

6,776 posts

73 months

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my dad had one of those pre-laptop portables in about 1990, pretty similar to the one on the vid. It had an LCD screen and the front maybe 6 inches opened, but the portion behind the keyboard was maybe 18" deep and the whole unit weighed 12kg! Proprietary operating system. He gave it to me to take to uni in the late 90s, and I used to type out essays at home on it as text files, save them to floppy and take them into uni to format them into word documents, but the text would often come through bksed because of weird eol characters etc so this often took a while. I am still kicking myself but on the last day of uni I left it behind. I had a desktop PC by then and my Dad didn't want it back, the future historical value of it wasn't apparent at that point unfort.

BryanR

61 posts

57 months

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malman said:
mine had the 20Mb hard drive instead of the second 5.25" floppy - wooooo!!! 20Mb read it and weep boys
Same here, but we had the extended memory board to take it upto 1 whole MB of RAM. The card ran the whole length of the machine, and was filled to bursting with chips.

I was also in the unfortunate position of having to run for a plane while carrying one, it near enough crippled me.

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