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JonRB

74,549 posts

272 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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rigga said:
FourWheelDrift said:
5.1.1 has just started being rolled out as well.
One of these has got to fix things finally.
Yeah, that's what my lazy side is saying. smile


rossmc88

475 posts

160 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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MarkRSi said:
Chaps,

Is Kitkat generally the best for dunking into your mocha version for the 1st Gen Nexus 7?

Or is it worth trying one of the Cyanogenmod ROMs (latest stable seems to be 10.2 / 4.3). It's just for my old man's N7, which is getting a big laggy with 5.1 now.

Edited by MarkRSi on Thursday 26th March 19:22
I have been downgrading 5.1 Nexus 7s to CM10.2 to great affect, brings them back to life

MarkRSi

5,782 posts

218 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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rossmc88 said:
MarkRSi said:
Chaps,

Is Kitkat generally the best for dunking into your mocha version for the 1st Gen Nexus 7?

Or is it worth trying one of the Cyanogenmod ROMs (latest stable seems to be 10.2 / 4.3). It's just for my old man's N7, which is getting a big laggy with 5.1 now.

Edited by MarkRSi on Thursday 26th March 19:22
I have been downgrading 5.1 Nexus 7s to CM10.2 to great affect, brings them back to life
Went ahead with this, no complaints so far smile

jbudgie

8,918 posts

212 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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what's CM10.2 ?

JonRB

74,549 posts

272 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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jbudgie said:
what's CM10.2 ?
As mentioned in the post that rossmc88 quoted, "Cyanogenmod ROMs (latest stable seems to be 10.2 / 4.3)"

Google "Cyanogenmod" for more info.

Paper Lawyer

247 posts

229 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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Chaps, I admittedly haven't crawled through this thread, but have none of you tried the "slimLP" custom rom? My Nexus 7 was really laggy but changing to the F2FS file system developed by Samsung has given my Nexus 7 a new lease of life


Use the wugfresh toolkit to root the tablet very easily. I used an OTG cable and a USB drive to install slimlp and minimal gapps following the conversion to all F2FS

JonRB

74,549 posts

272 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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voyds9 said:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images

instructions how to roll back to kitkat

not too difficult I managed it in about 90 mins.
I've had enough and have decided to do this.

It was actually very simple, as you say.

Just to expand on these instructions, the easiest way to get hold of ADB and fastboot is via one of the minimal repackagers. I used the one linked to from this article:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2...

The only other "gotcha" is that you must put the Nexus 7 into Developer Mode. You do this by going to "About device" in Settings and tapping on the "Build number" entry seven times (I kid you not).

Also, you need to make sure that your N7 is plugged into a USB2 port on your PC and not a USB3 port (the flashing failed consistently when connected to the USB3 port and thought I had bricked my N7, but then plugged it into a USB2 port and it worked first time without a problem).



Edited by JonRB on Wednesday 22 April 22:01

98elise

26,589 posts

161 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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loudlashadjuster said:
Kapenta said:
Google, you have completely dropped a bked here.
Bit unfair to blame Google for this one. As I understand it, it's Asus' choice of cheap memory and an underperforming/faulty memory controller that is to blame for the original N7's slowdown.
I disagree. I bought 3 GOOGLE branded devices from GOOGLE running the GOOGLE OS. They stopped selling it in the middle of 2013, and trashed it with an OS update in 2014.

They clearly have not tested it properly. They continue to roll it out to customers for months despite knowing it bricks devices. They have no proper rollback option.

If they were a small IT company releasing software this way you would think they were incompetent. As one of the biggest tech companies in the world is spectacularly crap

Edited by 98elise on Wednesday 22 April 21:29

JonRB

74,549 posts

272 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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My little 2012 N7 is positively flying along again now that it's back on KitKat.

rigga

8,730 posts

201 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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JonRB said:
My little 2012 N7 is positively flying along again now that it's back on KitKat.
Shut up, I'm going to have to do the same now ......I can't remember the last time it worked as it should do.

FourWheelDrift

88,516 posts

284 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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Argos have Nexus 7 2013 32GB currently at £139.99 - http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/1...

they are great on Lolipop smile

Funk

26,274 posts

209 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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That's a ridiculous price. Tempted to get another one at that money.

clonmult

10,529 posts

209 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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Funk said:
That's a ridiculous price. Tempted to get another one at that money.
I'd have a Hudl 2 over one of those any day, faster (although some games run sluggish under ARM emulation), better speakers ..... I absolutely loathe 5.x, all that I can really use my 2012N7 for now is for chromecast control.

FourWheelDrift

88,516 posts

284 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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clonmult said:
I'd have a Hudl 2 over one of those any day, faster (although some games run sluggish under ARM emulation), better speakers ..... I absolutely loathe 5.x, all that I can really use my 2012N7 for now is for chromecast control.
A 2012 N7 is outclassed by the 2013 N7. My parents have a Hudl 2. I'd keep my Nexus 7 running 5.1

clonmult

10,529 posts

209 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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FourWheelDrift said:
clonmult said:
I'd have a Hudl 2 over one of those any day, faster (although some games run sluggish under ARM emulation), better speakers ..... I absolutely loathe 5.x, all that I can really use my 2012N7 for now is for chromecast control.
A 2012 N7 is outclassed by the 2013 N7. My parents have a Hudl 2. I'd keep my Nexus 7 running 5.1
If you're looking for a new tablet, I'd choose the Hudl 2 over the 2013 N7 as the Hudl 2 is probably the better device of the two.

Whilst the 2013 N7 does outclass my old 2012 model, its not a worthwhile upgrade due to my usage (chromecast control).

LordGrover

33,539 posts

212 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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FourWheelDrift said:
Argos have Nexus 7 2013 32GB currently at £139.99 - http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/1...

they are great on Lolipop smile
At that price I'm sorely tempted.
My N7 died six months ago and replaced it with a Nexus 9 - a sorry piece of crap that is.
Really miss the 7. scratchchin

Funk

26,274 posts

209 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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The Hudl2 is about twice the weight of the N7 2013 is it not?

Wombat3

12,151 posts

206 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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Rolled back to Kitkat 4.4.4. Nice to have my tablet back - forgotten how good it was before Google stuffed it with Lollipop glue!

clonmult

10,529 posts

209 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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Funk said:
The Hudl2 is about twice the weight of the N7 2013 is it not?
400g v 290g. The Hudl 2 is the better device of the two. Expandable memory, pretty good speakers (the N7 sucks in that regard), it is quite well built. The N7 feels cheap in comparison. You can harp on about "oooh, but the Nexus range will get the updates", but I haven't had a single update on the N7 thats actually improved it - if anything, each update has gradually made it slower and slower and slower ....

Funk

26,274 posts

209 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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clonmult said:
Funk said:
The Hudl2 is about twice the weight of the N7 2013 is it not?
400g v 290g. The Hudl 2 is the better device of the two. Expandable memory, pretty good speakers (the N7 sucks in that regard), it is quite well built. The N7 feels cheap in comparison. You can harp on about "oooh, but the Nexus range will get the updates", but I haven't had a single update on the N7 thats actually improved it - if anything, each update has gradually made it slower and slower and slower ....
My 2013 is running beautifully on 5.1...