Moving to the sticks - need BB help
Discussion
plasticpig said:
You don't need an Openreach branded one. You can save a couple of quid and get a Pressac one. Apart from the branding on the face plate they are identical.
Absolutely right, but there's one big reason I recommend Openreach-branded parts.If you ever have a fault that needs an engineer visit, they are far less likely to blame those parts. That's worth the £1-2 difference.
As an aside, I've found the Openreach-branded faceplate to be far more reliable than another popular item that makes great play of having lots of transistors in it. YMMV.
OP - any bother, give me a shout via PM. I've sorted this kind of thing a lot, including several cases where Openreach claimed that ADSL was not possible at all.
Broadband will be the least of your worries once you realise no one delivers take away to your new home 
4-5Mb speeds achieved here. It's bearable and most of the time you don't really notice (even things like Apple TV film rentals work OK).
Also, you might find that your choice of provider is limited and the packages available to you equally so.
4-5Mb speeds achieved here. It's bearable and most of the time you don't really notice (even things like Apple TV film rentals work OK).
Also, you might find that your choice of provider is limited and the packages available to you equally so.
shtu said:
plasticpig said:
You don't need an Openreach branded one. You can save a couple of quid and get a Pressac one. Apart from the branding on the face plate they are identical.
Absolutely right, but there's one big reason I recommend Openreach-branded parts.If you ever have a fault that needs an engineer visit, they are far less likely to blame those parts. That's worth the £1-2 difference.
As an aside, I've found the Openreach-branded faceplate to be far more reliable than another popular item that makes great play of having lots of transistors in it. YMMV.
OP - any bother, give me a shout via PM. I've sorted this kind of thing a lot, including several cases where Openreach claimed that ADSL was not possible at all.
Skier
Skier said:
All a faceplate does is, in effect, disconnect the bell wire.
Wrong.You are confusing the iplate with a filtered faceplate. They are different things.
What you mention is (partly) correct in that removing the bellwire can help improve sync, but that is only true if you are using plug-in filters around the house.
I don't recommend this approach at all. In fact, I didn't even mention it, which should tell you all you need to know.
A filtered faceplate filters ALL the household wiring and devices centrally, giving the best sync speed possible. That's why I recommend it.
A bit more info on our setup for those that requested it!
We have two companies that have set up in our village, mainly due to us being miles from the exchange. Concensus amongst the village forum is that the very best speeds that folks were achieving through the lines was 2mb, many more a lot less.
So, Boundless broadband and Sonic Internet set themselves up with what I believe are called fibre to mast systems. You can tell which houses go for the fast broadband as we all have a box somewhere on the house about the size of an iPhone which is connected (line of sight) to their transmitter.
Have a quick google for the companies, I think Boundless are bigger outside of Lancs but the technology seems quite accessible so who knows what companies are setting up and where?
As is say, we're getting a solid 10mb service with a fixed IP which is working very well indeed. The costs are more expensive than a line system, but not by much I think the top end Sonic deal is £22 for 20mb. Couple that with the ability to say foxtrot Oscar to BT and it seems like a great deal
We have two companies that have set up in our village, mainly due to us being miles from the exchange. Concensus amongst the village forum is that the very best speeds that folks were achieving through the lines was 2mb, many more a lot less.
So, Boundless broadband and Sonic Internet set themselves up with what I believe are called fibre to mast systems. You can tell which houses go for the fast broadband as we all have a box somewhere on the house about the size of an iPhone which is connected (line of sight) to their transmitter.
Have a quick google for the companies, I think Boundless are bigger outside of Lancs but the technology seems quite accessible so who knows what companies are setting up and where?
As is say, we're getting a solid 10mb service with a fixed IP which is working very well indeed. The costs are more expensive than a line system, but not by much I think the top end Sonic deal is £22 for 20mb. Couple that with the ability to say foxtrot Oscar to BT and it seems like a great deal
cuneus said:
Here's what I found inside the drop box - bloody terminal blocks!! - Touch it and BB/phone would stop.
No way was that done by Openreach. They would use "jelly crimps" which are quicker, easier and more reliable.That's the sort of thing you see when an alarm fitter or DIYer has been at it.
Kuroblack350 said:
A bit more info on our setup for those that requested it!
We have two companies that have set up in our village, mainly due to us being miles from the exchange. Concensus amongst the village forum is that the very best speeds that folks were achieving through the lines was 2mb, many more a lot less.
So, Boundless broadband and Sonic Internet set themselves up with what I believe are called fibre to mast systems. You can tell which houses go for the fast broadband as we all have a box somewhere on the house about the size of an iPhone which is connected (line of sight) to their transmitter.
Have a quick google for the companies, I think Boundless are bigger outside of Lancs but the technology seems quite accessible so who knows what companies are setting up and where?
As is say, we're getting a solid 10mb service with a fixed IP which is working very well indeed. The costs are more expensive than a line system, but not by much I think the top end Sonic deal is £22 for 20mb. Couple that with the ability to say foxtrot Oscar to BT and it seems like a great deal
Cheers. Will look into this. There's hope yet it would seem.We have two companies that have set up in our village, mainly due to us being miles from the exchange. Concensus amongst the village forum is that the very best speeds that folks were achieving through the lines was 2mb, many more a lot less.
So, Boundless broadband and Sonic Internet set themselves up with what I believe are called fibre to mast systems. You can tell which houses go for the fast broadband as we all have a box somewhere on the house about the size of an iPhone which is connected (line of sight) to their transmitter.
Have a quick google for the companies, I think Boundless are bigger outside of Lancs but the technology seems quite accessible so who knows what companies are setting up and where?
As is say, we're getting a solid 10mb service with a fixed IP which is working very well indeed. The costs are more expensive than a line system, but not by much I think the top end Sonic deal is £22 for 20mb. Couple that with the ability to say foxtrot Oscar to BT and it seems like a great deal
Will the roll out of 4G next year or the year after make all this problem a thing of the past?
Luke. said:
sinizter said:
Not if everyone around you thinks of doing the same.
There isn't really anyone around me. That's the problem with my current BB. Tooway is interesting, but bear in mind that latency with satellite based systems is a LOT higher than ADSL*, so forget gaming.
- Signal has to go all the way out the the satellite and back, then over whatever backhaul the ISP has, and then the response also has to go to the satellite and back. Sounds obvious, but lot of folk forget this.
shtu said:
Tooway is interesting, but bear in mind that latency with satellite based systems is a LOT higher than ADSL*, so forget gaming.
Cheers Shtu, though think my online gaming days are well and truly behind me.- Signal has to go all the way out the the satellite and back, then over whatever backhaul the ISP has, and then the response also has to go to the satellite and back. Sounds obvious, but lot of folk forget this.
shtu said:
Luke, if you're a BT customer, get yourself on eBay and spend £10 on a 2Wire 2700, with a little looking that'll get you a new-in-box one.
Plugs straight in and works with no fiddling. (Can be made to work on other ISPs, but that's not for here.)
When you say BT customer, you mean for the ISP rather than landline? I'm with Plusnet, who are now owned by BT - would that suffice? Cheers.Plugs straight in and works with no fiddling. (Can be made to work on other ISPs, but that's not for here.)
Edit: Just been having a browse on eBay. What's so good about the 2Wire 2700? How come it's faster? Sorry for all the questions, but my speed really is laughable at home.
Edited by Luke. on Friday 3rd August 11:36
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