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"Android is best"
"No, iOS is best!"
"I think you'll find windows mobile is the best"
"Well, sir, I prefer my RIM"
"But Android is best"
"No, iOS is best!"
"I think you'll find windows mobile is the best"
"Well, sir, I prefer my RIM"
"But Android is best"
"No, iOS is best!"
"I think you'll find windows mobile is the best"
"Well, sir, I prefer my RIM"
"But Android is best"
"No, iOS is best!"
"I think you'll find windows mobile is the best"
"Well, sir, I prefer my RIM"
Ad infinitum.
"No, iOS is best!"
"I think you'll find windows mobile is the best"
"Well, sir, I prefer my RIM"
"But Android is best"
"No, iOS is best!"
"I think you'll find windows mobile is the best"
"Well, sir, I prefer my RIM"
"But Android is best"
"No, iOS is best!"
"I think you'll find windows mobile is the best"
"Well, sir, I prefer my RIM"
"But Android is best"
"No, iOS is best!"
"I think you'll find windows mobile is the best"
"Well, sir, I prefer my RIM"
Ad infinitum.
Edited by TheHeretic on Wednesday 10th October 17:22
Leithen said:
hyperblue said:
The Apple apologists have gone very quiet in this thread 
The company seems to be doing enough apologising on its own.For those that follow the machinations of the fruity company, this can't do Scott Forstall's prospects much good.
Leithen said:
Forstall takes the can for the Maps debacle and as an added bonus, Browett gets the boot. Never understood how he got the retail job in the first place.
Surely forstall is leaving for different reasons. I couldn't imagine someone so high up taking the fall for one f
k up....It's almost strange that it's taken so long for such a bust-up. Sure, the Maps debacle is not a surprising catalyst, but it's a wonder that the senior management didn't implode earlier without Jobs there. Shows what a good job of transition has been managed in the latter years after all!
The clash between Ives and Forstall over the skeumorphic design direction of Apple's own apps has been bubbling around on the rumour sites for a while. Apparently Jobs was in favour, so maybe now he's gone Cook and the others are in the same camp as Ives. I suspect that maps was the final straw.
Stuart said:
The clash between Ives and Forstall over the skeumorphic design direction of Apple's own apps has been bubbling around on the rumour sites for a while. Apparently Jobs was in favour, so maybe now he's gone Cook and the others are in the same camp as Ives. I suspect that maps was the final straw.
I've hated the Skeuomorphic (now that's a new word to me!) elements ever since they infected some NeXTstep apps. They just do not fit with the clean design of iOS and OS X. They look like something from the early 90s and, effectively, that's what they are. Why try to make an app look a bit like the old-fashioned physical item that it replaces? It makes no sense.Zod said:
I've hated the Skeuomorphic (now that's a new word to me!) elements ever since they infected some NeXTstep apps. They just do not fit with the clean design of iOS and OS X. They look like something from the early 90s and, effectively, that's what they are. Why try to make an app look a bit like the old-fashioned physical item that it replaces? It makes no sense.
Yep, that's my view. Always struck me as being completely out of step with the hardware design ethos. Particularly apparent now with stuff like Win8 moving things on in that area. With Ive now running "human interface" in its entirety it'll be interesting to see the direction they take it in.Stuart said:
Yep, that's my view. Always struck me as being completely out of step with the hardware design ethos. Particularly apparent now with stuff like Win8 moving things on in that area. With Ive now running "human interface" in its entirety it'll be interesting to see the direction they take it in.
I wonder how quickly changes will become apparent? If there has been discontent with the skeuomorphism for some time, have Ive and others been quietly working on alternatives?Edited to add - iTunes 11 is about to drop - how will it fit with any change in HI direction?
Leithen said:
I wonder how quickly changes will become apparent? If there has been discontent with the skeuomorphism for some time, have Ive and others been quietly working on alternatives?
Edited to add - iTunes 11 is about to drop - how will it fit with any change in HI direction?
iTunes isn't really stricken with that whole "make it look like a leather desk diary" feel though, is it? The iOS interface is pretty slick already since iOS6. Edited to add - iTunes 11 is about to drop - how will it fit with any change in HI direction?
The things which have been singled out for criticism are calendar, game center (sic), books, and mostly on the iPad or desktop version. I guess all that fake wooden and leather stuff will disappear fairly quickly.
Calendar is particularly woeful. Generally I think the intention with skeuomorphic stuff is to make it understandable to non-techies - however even my Mother would question why a calendar on an iPad looks like a leather bound desk calendar.
It's odd how the "basics" seem to be overlooked so often by Apple. Take Mail for OSX for example - even today it's impossible to reliably format a message and for it to be delivered with the formatting intact - how is that acceptable in 2012?
It's odd how the "basics" seem to be overlooked so often by Apple. Take Mail for OSX for example - even today it's impossible to reliably format a message and for it to be delivered with the formatting intact - how is that acceptable in 2012?
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