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Stuart

11,635 posts

252 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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frosted said:


This is what my sg3 has, rather not even a tom tom can match that imo
Genuinely baffled by how that's considered a good thing. You could really use that as in-car nav? And not crash?

Frik

13,542 posts

244 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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Likewise, what is that trying to represent?

I've been using TomTom on iOS for around two years and it is utterly fantastic.

frosted

3,549 posts

178 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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It represents traffic, so for example I know what road/area to avoid. I can zoom in out and it has a goid 3d view which is miles ahead of what I had on the iPhone.

In picture doesn't look like much but trust me, a lot better

moleamol

15,887 posts

264 months

Friday 7th September 2012
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Stuart said:
frosted said:


This is what my sg3 has, rather not even a tom tom can match that imo
Genuinely baffled by how that's considered a good thing. You could really use that as in-car nav? And not crash?
That is horrific but HTC 'Car' mode is the best nav I've used, specifically for being up to date. My old Navman did roundabouts better though.

thehawk

9,335 posts

208 months

Friday 7th September 2012
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frosted said:


This is what my sg3 has, rather not even a tom tom can match that imo
Google maps is generally pretty useless for navigation, will get you there in the end but very poor at routing and as your picture shows just a complete crappy user interface for driving - I got sick of it after 2 days in LA and bought a proper Garmin GPS.

wiggy001

6,545 posts

272 months

Friday 7th September 2012
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frosted said:


This is what my sg3 has, rather not even a tom tom can match that imo
After your continuous posts saying how good Android is over iOS, you then decide to go the other way and show something Android is pretty useless at!

Really struggling to see how that is any better than the integrated maps on (the current version of) iOS? But then I really don't want to get into an argument with a fanboy, so feel free not to reply.

Stuart

11,635 posts

252 months

Friday 7th September 2012
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frosted said:
It represents traffic, so for example I know what road/area to avoid. I can zoom in out and it has a goid 3d view which is miles ahead of what I had on the iPhone.

In picture doesn't look like much but trust me, a lot better
Looks completely useless as Nav.

The iOS6 TomTom is much better and much more useable, and I'm no fan of Phone nav over an actual TomTom/built in nav as a rule.

Gosh, Android people love to accuse iOS users of being blind fanboys, but don't see that quality in themselves, do they?

ZesPak

24,438 posts

197 months

Friday 7th September 2012
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Stuart said:
Looks completely useless as Nav.

The iOS6 TomTom is much better and much more useable, and I'm no fan of Phone nav over an actual TomTom/built in nav as a rule.

Gosh, Android people love to accuse iOS users of being blind fanboys, but don't see that quality in themselves, do they?
It may look that way, but it isn't. It's by far one of the best sat nav programs I've ever used. Too bad it's not offline available!
Don't know about "iOS6" TomTom, but the TomTom on my iPhone was good, but not nearly as good or useable Google Maps or CoPilot for me.

Have you actually ever used Google Maps as a sat nav? "Looks completely useless" is a bold statement.

Stuart

11,635 posts

252 months

Friday 7th September 2012
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ZesPak said:
Have you actually ever used Google Maps as a sat nav? "Looks completely useless" is a bold statement.
Yes. I don't like it at all. But then I start from a low base on phone nav full stop.

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

227 months

Friday 7th September 2012
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ZesPak said:
Have you actually ever used Google Maps as a sat nav? "Looks completely useless" is a bold statement.
Google Maps is horrifically st for actual navigation.

Google Navigation, on the other hand, is an averagely-good satnav application that will get you there.

ZesPak

24,438 posts

197 months

Friday 7th September 2012
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CommanderJameson said:
ZesPak said:
Have you actually ever used Google Maps as a sat nav? "Looks completely useless" is a bold statement.
Google Maps is horrifically st for actual navigation.

Google Navigation, on the other hand, is an averagely-good satnav application that will get you there.
Sorry, of course I ment Google Navigation.

I found it more than average, use it very often on the bike and in the car and always gets me there, with tonnes of functions and easy integration with the entire phone.

Stuart said:
Yes. I don't like it at all. But then I start from a low base on phone nav full stop.
How's that? It's got a screen and a GPS module, so everything a stand alone GPS unit has.
Add to that that it's got all your contacts, appointments, the internet, and a large number of GPS apps to chose from, why would you consider a standalone GPS superior?

Not willing to troll here, just asking myself. The great thing about the phone for me is that it made the standalone one useless for me, add to that that you always have it on you is a great plus.

Stuart

11,635 posts

252 months

Friday 7th September 2012
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Personally, I find using an interface so small in a car on the move awkward. That said, I don't really like touch screen built in nav either, a la JLR.

I can imagine that on a bike or a push bike it would be better, but I don't ride a motorbike and don't travel the sort of distances on my road bike where nav is required. If I get lost, I stop and look at where I am on Google maps.

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

227 months

Friday 7th September 2012
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The thing I found with Google Navigation was that it mullers the CPU. In conjunction with running the GPS and data connections, this means you must be diligent in your choice of car charge if you want the phone to last a 3-hour journey. I have a Belkin one that puts out 2A on one USB socket, and 1A on the other. The 2A socket is the one you need.

Different phone, different software platform, but Nokia Drive isn't nearly as bad for this. Full offline maps may be part of the reason.

ZesPak

24,438 posts

197 months

Friday 7th September 2012
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CommanderJameson said:
The thing I found with Google Navigation was that it mullers the CPU. In conjunction with running the GPS and data connections, this means you must be diligent in your choice of car charge if you want the phone to last a 3-hour journey. I have a Belkin one that puts out 2A on one USB socket, and 1A on the other. The 2A socket is the one you need.

Different phone, different software platform, but Nokia Drive isn't nearly as bad for this. Full offline maps may be part of the reason.
Agreed, I always thought it was mainly the data connection.
We've travelled through Europe on CoPilot (full offline as well) and it was brilliant on the battery. Google Nav takes up a lot more battery indeed. Still, I've had a stand alone Mio at one point, and driving over 1h without plugging it in was a no go as well.
At least on the phone I can swap the battery, and Google Nav is free (no extra charge at least).

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

251 months

Friday 7th September 2012
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mildmannered said:
TheHeretic said:
You can change the pin setting in erm, settings. Set the duration, or no pass code at all.
I've set a pin so I can fully utilize the "Find iPhone" software (we have an iPad at home). It's not a dig at the product at all, just that it's a pain in the bum! There is so much of me stored on my phone, it would be daft not to take some security measures.
What parts of the Find iPhone software can you not use without a PIN? I have not got a PIN on my iPhone (or iPad for that matter) and both are fully set up with the Find iPhone bits.

Indeed, my (now ex) girlfriend's was too and I found it very useful to know when her train was getting in so I could pick her up from the station biggrin

thehawk

9,335 posts

208 months

Friday 7th September 2012
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CommanderJameson said:
Google Navigation, on the other hand, is an averagely-good satnav application that will get you there.
The actual application and integration are very good, but as I mentioned the routing can be very poor, especially in a huge city like LA - one route the Garmin was 4 miles, Google Navigation was 13 miles. But great for searching on Google and going direct to a place, with photos and traffic etc.

Secondly, it is not sustainable as it sucks battery life like there is no tomorrow, even when plugged in.



Stuart

11,635 posts

252 months

Friday 7th September 2012
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TonyHetherington said:
What parts of the Find iPhone software can you not use without a PIN? I have not got a PIN on my iPhone (or iPad for that matter) and both are fully set up with the Find iPhone bits.

Indeed, my (now ex) girlfriend's was too and I found it very useful to know when her train was getting in so I could pick her up from the station biggrin
I think he means that with a pin set up some unscrupulous sod would not be able to switch off Find my iPhone.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

256 months

Friday 7th September 2012
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Stuart said:
I think he means that with a pin set up some unscrupulous sod would not be able to switch off Find my iPhone.
You could I suppose, use restrictions rather than a the pass lock, so you are prompted when trying to make a change.

Frik

13,542 posts

244 months

Friday 7th September 2012
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ZesPak said:
Don't know about "iOS6" TomTom, but the TomTom on my iPhone was good, but not nearly as good or useable Google Maps or CoPilot for me.
I know I'm banging the drum but with no experience of the latter, I'm genuinely curious of how they could be better than the TomTom app.

moleamol

15,887 posts

264 months

Friday 7th September 2012
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moleamol said:
Stuart said:
frosted said:


This is what my sg3 has, rather not even a tom tom can match that imo
Genuinely baffled by how that's considered a good thing. You could really use that as in-car nav? And not crash?
That is horrific but HTC 'Car' mode is the best nav I've used, specifically for being up to date. My old Navman did roundabouts better though.
For comparison, this is what my Android nav looks like: