LG Google Nexus 4

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DervVW

2,223 posts

140 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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I set the alarm through the voice recognition and it didn't set, normally it sort of recognizes it, processes it and then its set, but now you have to confirm it seems

DervVW

2,223 posts

140 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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Apparently with the kitkat update some peoples sms's are going out as mms.

I noticed on my contract that I suddenly had 500 mms messages which I didnt have, so I rang up CS and was advised by them that they had done this because nexus 4 &5 had been sending sms as mms.

Actually V impressed with the operator for that.

Watchman

6,391 posts

246 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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DervVW said:
Apparently with the kitkat update some peoples sms's are going out as mms.

I noticed on my contract that I suddenly had 500 mms messages which I didnt have, so I rang up CS and was advised by them that they had done this because nexus 4 &5 had been sending sms as mms.

Actually V impressed with the operator for that.
I can't follow this. You sent 500 sms but your phone converted them to mms which you noticed on your contract? Invoice/bill? Who/what is CS and what did they do?

Anyway, assuming your phone was sending sms as mms, I checked my N4 (which is on Kit Kat) and it says "sms" next to those messages I've sent. Also, on GiffGaff mms is not part of the monthly fee, so I would need to top-up my account to send mms.

Possibly a config problem?

DervVW

2,223 posts

140 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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Watchman said:
DervVW said:
Apparently with the kitkat update some peoples sms's are going out as mms.

I noticed on my contract that I suddenly had 500 mms messages which I didnt have, so I rang up CS and was advised by them that they had done this because nexus 4 &5 had been sending sms as mms.

Actually V impressed with the operator for that.
I can't follow this. You sent 500 sms but your phone converted them to mms which you noticed on your contract? Invoice/bill? Who/what is CS and what did they do?

Anyway, assuming your phone was sending sms as mms, I checked my N4 (which is on Kit Kat) and it says "sms" next to those messages I've sent. Also, on GiffGaff mms is not part of the monthly fee, so I would need to top-up my account to send mms.

Possibly a config problem?
Sorry for the babbling.
On my phone there is an app to see what I have used that month, ie mins, sms and data. But I noticed that I had a new option, the MMS messages or picture messages.
I was suspicious of this generosity, because they never give away things mid contract do they?
So I called CS (Customer Services) to find out why this new allowance was on my account.

On speaking to them (Customer services) it would seem that some nexus devices had been sending SMS messages as MMS (perhaps with the hangout feature and multiple recipients?) So rather than letting the customers get huge bills for MMS that they did not know they were sending, the network operator has given all the Nexus users 500 free MMS to cover this problem.

CraigyMc

16,423 posts

237 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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DervVW said:
Watchman said:
DervVW said:
Apparently with the kitkat update some peoples sms's are going out as mms.

I noticed on my contract that I suddenly had 500 mms messages which I didnt have, so I rang up CS and was advised by them that they had done this because nexus 4 &5 had been sending sms as mms.

Actually V impressed with the operator for that.
I can't follow this. You sent 500 sms but your phone converted them to mms which you noticed on your contract? Invoice/bill? Who/what is CS and what did they do?

Anyway, assuming your phone was sending sms as mms, I checked my N4 (which is on Kit Kat) and it says "sms" next to those messages I've sent. Also, on GiffGaff mms is not part of the monthly fee, so I would need to top-up my account to send mms.

Possibly a config problem?
Sorry for the babbling.
On my phone there is an app to see what I have used that month, ie mins, sms and data. But I noticed that I had a new option, the MMS messages or picture messages.
I was suspicious of this generosity, because they never give away things mid contract do they?
So I called CS (Customer Services) to find out why this new allowance was on my account.

On speaking to them (Customer services) it would seem that some nexus devices had been sending SMS messages as MMS (perhaps with the hangout feature and multiple recipients?) So rather than letting the customers get huge bills for MMS that they did not know they were sending, the network operator has given all the Nexus users 500 free MMS to cover this problem.
I always thought SMS was a mobile phone network feature, but MMS used data. (I'm fairly confident this is the case).

DervVW

2,223 posts

140 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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CraigyMc said:
DervVW said:
Watchman said:
DervVW said:
Apparently with the kitkat update some peoples sms's are going out as mms.

I noticed on my contract that I suddenly had 500 mms messages which I didnt have, so I rang up CS and was advised by them that they had done this because nexus 4 &5 had been sending sms as mms.

Actually V impressed with the operator for that.
I can't follow this. You sent 500 sms but your phone converted them to mms which you noticed on your contract? Invoice/bill? Who/what is CS and what did they do?

Anyway, assuming your phone was sending sms as mms, I checked my N4 (which is on Kit Kat) and it says "sms" next to those messages I've sent. Also, on GiffGaff mms is not part of the monthly fee, so I would need to top-up my account to send mms.

Possibly a config problem?
Sorry for the babbling.
On my phone there is an app to see what I have used that month, ie mins, sms and data. But I noticed that I had a new option, the MMS messages or picture messages.
I was suspicious of this generosity, because they never give away things mid contract do they?
So I called CS (Customer Services) to find out why this new allowance was on my account.

On speaking to them (Customer services) it would seem that some nexus devices had been sending SMS messages as MMS (perhaps with the hangout feature and multiple recipients?) So rather than letting the customers get huge bills for MMS that they did not know they were sending, the network operator has given all the Nexus users 500 free MMS to cover this problem.
I always thought SMS was a mobile phone network feature, but MMS used data. (I'm fairly confident this is the case).
I've been charged for MMS in the past both on Orange/EE and three

Birdster

2,530 posts

144 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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wiffmaster said:
Birdster said:
Crikey. Just had to set an alarm and now instead of the digital clock and just typing the digits in for the desired time you now use gestures on a clock face. Needlessly complicating something.
I thought the same at first. But now I've used it for a few weeks, I actually find I much prefer it to the old way of setting an alarm...although I'm not sure why exactly.
Hopefully I'll say the same. biggrin

Tonsko

6,299 posts

216 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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I noticed that 3 had suddenly given me 500 free MMS messages as well, and wondered why. Guess I now know smile

DervVW

2,223 posts

140 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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Tonsko said:
I noticed that 3 had suddenly given me 500 free MMS messages as well, and wondered why. Guess I now know smile
Glad I helped someone. Are you really a penetration tester?

Tonsko

6,299 posts

216 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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Yep.

Edited by Tonsko on Tuesday 3rd December 19:33

CraigyMc

16,423 posts

237 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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DervVW said:
Tonsko said:
I noticed that 3 had suddenly given me 500 free MMS messages as well, and wondered why. Guess I now know smile
Glad I helped someone. Are you really a penetration tester?
That's just what he tells his marks.

Watchman

6,391 posts

246 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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DervVW said:
Sorry for the babbling.
On my phone there is an app to see what I have used that month, ie mins, sms and data. But I noticed that I had a new option, the MMS messages or picture messages.
I was suspicious of this generosity, because they never give away things mid contract do they?
So I called CS (Customer Services) to find out why this new allowance was on my account.

On speaking to them (Customer services) it would seem that some nexus devices had been sending SMS messages as MMS (perhaps with the hangout feature and multiple recipients?) So rather than letting the customers get huge bills for MMS that they did not know they were sending, the network operator has given all the Nexus users 500 free MMS to cover this problem.
You've got me intrigued now. I can view the mobile data usage and Hangouts is listed with 28Kb (only) against it. I would have thought the numerous text messages I have sent would be more but I don't know how big they are (file size).

What app are you using? I must have it. smile

Silver940

3,961 posts

228 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2013
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interesting, just checked,I too have the 500 picture messages. now will they remove them without warning too...
it's the three app btw

Egg Chaser

4,951 posts

168 months

Friday 6th December 2013
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Just sideloaded the minor update to 4.4.1, and we now have a transparent lockscreen:



Download link for anyone who's impatient like me.

Edit- I also just switched back to ART and it's now compatible with Whatsapp, which was the only reason I wasn't using it. Good stuff.

Edited by Egg Chaser on Friday 6th December 03:11

TameRacingDriver

Original Poster:

18,094 posts

273 months

Friday 6th December 2013
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Interesting, glad they saw fit to give us that, visually looks much nicer.

TameRacingDriver

Original Poster:

18,094 posts

273 months

Friday 6th December 2013
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Just flashed the update myself, and can confirm I now have transparent bars top and bottom on the lock screen and home screen now (although I am using Nova launcher), it also fixed the navbar not being transparent on Nova, never did get to the bottom of that issue!

Watchman

6,391 posts

246 months

Friday 6th December 2013
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Will we get that automatically, without having to sideload it?

TameRacingDriver

Original Poster:

18,094 posts

273 months

Friday 6th December 2013
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Watchman said:
Will we get that automatically, without having to sideload it?
Yes, I was just impatient biggrin

Watchman

6,391 posts

246 months

Friday 6th December 2013
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TameRacingDriver said:
Yes, I was just impatient biggrin
Great. Thanks.

MarkRSi

5,782 posts

219 months

Saturday 7th December 2013
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Update already? As my 4.4 N4 is rooted Is there a straightforward way to update without wiping out the phone?