Quick thoughts on the Lumia 920
Discussion
TameRacingDriver said:
So left it overnight with about 75% battery remaining lying on my desk and this morning - dead. Won't even turn on.
No doubt another soft reset.
This isn't acceptable and it will be going for a refund. 2 days and I am sick of the sight of it already I'm afraid. They could well be software problems but I'm not waiting until Nokia deem us worthy to have the upcoming upgrade whic may or may not fix the issues.
I bought a wp8 handset as I liked the UI and thought it would be a reliable if closed OS but its already caused my a lot of grief and I didn't get it so I could sit on google looking for solutions to problems. If im going to sit dicking around with phones then I may as well just go back to android which is a lot less restricted.
It would see Nokia still have the same problem they had in the latter days of the N-series - that there is an unacceptable number of lemons making their way into customer's hands No doubt another soft reset.
This isn't acceptable and it will be going for a refund. 2 days and I am sick of the sight of it already I'm afraid. They could well be software problems but I'm not waiting until Nokia deem us worthy to have the upcoming upgrade whic may or may not fix the issues.
I bought a wp8 handset as I liked the UI and thought it would be a reliable if closed OS but its already caused my a lot of grief and I didn't get it so I could sit on google looking for solutions to problems. If im going to sit dicking around with phones then I may as well just go back to android which is a lot less restricted.
Sorry to hear about your problems TRD!
KaraK said:
It would see Nokia still have the same problem they had in the latter days of the N-series - that there is an unacceptable number of lemons making their way into customer's hands
Sorry to hear about your problems TRD!
Cheers.Sorry to hear about your problems TRD!
It's been OK overnight last night.
That said, I've been reading in some quarters that the Portico upgrade not only hasn't fixed the random rebooting but also that its introduced some new bugs.
Decisions decisions.......
TameRacingDriver said:
KaraK said:
It would see Nokia still have the same problem they had in the latter days of the N-series - that there is an unacceptable number of lemons making their way into customer's hands
Sorry to hear about your problems TRD!
Cheers.Sorry to hear about your problems TRD!
It's been OK overnight last night.
That said, I've been reading in some quarters that the Portico upgrade not only hasn't fixed the random rebooting but also that its introduced some new bugs.
Decisions decisions.......
Well its going back today.
This morning it was still turned on, but I was unable to send texts. I entered my text and pressed send and the message disappeared but the text didn't send.
Restarted the phone, lost the time and date again (though strangely only by several hours) and the phone then gave a "Can't send" error.
I'm glad you are all having good luck with your phones. I am not going to slag the phone off because the problem is me. Everything I buy is f
king terrible, and I KNOW for a FACT that most people have better luck than me with stuff 
I mean my last Galaxy Note II tried to kill me... I don't know why but tech gadgets don't seem to like me.
This morning it was still turned on, but I was unable to send texts. I entered my text and pressed send and the message disappeared but the text didn't send.
Restarted the phone, lost the time and date again (though strangely only by several hours) and the phone then gave a "Can't send" error.
I'm glad you are all having good luck with your phones. I am not going to slag the phone off because the problem is me. Everything I buy is f
king terrible, and I KNOW for a FACT that most people have better luck than me with stuff I mean my last Galaxy Note II tried to kill me... I don't know why but tech gadgets don't seem to like me.Edited by TameRacingDriver on Friday 28th December 11:10
I must admit that I've been on a bit of a lucky streak of late - my 920 is fine, I seemed to get the only N97 mini that worked flawlessly and even my Touchpad hasn't developed the almost standard cracks around the speaker. I strongly suspect that a crate of iPads is going to fall from the sky and crush me to balance the karma
I will say one thing.
I am STRONGLY of the opinion that this Portico update will NOT fix the rebooting issue. I honestly think that there are quite a few dodgy Lumia 920s displaying hardware faults that many users are going to put up with in the hope that a software update is going to sort out. I think they're going to be disappointed. For me, if it was an actual flaw in the OS, surely all handsets would be doing it?
I'm aware that there is an update coming out to improve the camera too, but I have found myself extremely disappointed with that too. Maybe my expectations are too high (given its a phone etc) but the pictures really are massively worse than both my Panasonic Lumix TZ7, and, surprisingly, my ancient Sony DSC-W50.
I would honestly say that I don't really remember my Galaxy S2 being any worse for photos than this and this is a phone heavily touted for its photography hardware. Certainly my Galaxy Note II took better pictures IMHO.
But then like I say, I probably have a massive lemon.
I am STRONGLY of the opinion that this Portico update will NOT fix the rebooting issue. I honestly think that there are quite a few dodgy Lumia 920s displaying hardware faults that many users are going to put up with in the hope that a software update is going to sort out. I think they're going to be disappointed. For me, if it was an actual flaw in the OS, surely all handsets would be doing it?
I'm aware that there is an update coming out to improve the camera too, but I have found myself extremely disappointed with that too. Maybe my expectations are too high (given its a phone etc) but the pictures really are massively worse than both my Panasonic Lumix TZ7, and, surprisingly, my ancient Sony DSC-W50.
I would honestly say that I don't really remember my Galaxy S2 being any worse for photos than this and this is a phone heavily touted for its photography hardware. Certainly my Galaxy Note II took better pictures IMHO.
But then like I say, I probably have a massive lemon.
Right I've had my replacement two days now and its behaved itself so far.
Anyone with a rebooting device, if its doing it as often as mine was, don't expect the update to fix anything as I strongly believe there are some lemons out there.
I take back what I said about the camera in low lighting, surprisingly good actually as long as you select night mode and make sure the lens is clean.
Still not sure how I feel about WP8 though. Android is clearly more mature and powerful, and given how much I use Google services, I don't know if it wouldn't still be the better choice - I'd probably go for a Nexus 4, HTC One S or HTC One X Plus if I decide I don't get on with it.
That said, it is a very visually appealing OS which does go in its favour.
A few observations.
Anyone with a rebooting device, if its doing it as often as mine was, don't expect the update to fix anything as I strongly believe there are some lemons out there.
I take back what I said about the camera in low lighting, surprisingly good actually as long as you select night mode and make sure the lens is clean.
Still not sure how I feel about WP8 though. Android is clearly more mature and powerful, and given how much I use Google services, I don't know if it wouldn't still be the better choice - I'd probably go for a Nexus 4, HTC One S or HTC One X Plus if I decide I don't get on with it.
That said, it is a very visually appealing OS which does go in its favour.
A few observations.
- Searching is not consistent on the device. Some things can be searched for using the search button, other things have to be searched for within the app itself (like app drawer, contacts etc). This is inconsistent and leads to confusion.
- In general the searching facility is far superior on Android, but then that might be expected from a phone OS designed by a search giant like google.
- Local results (again in search) all show up in km despite the fact I have the regional settings set correctly.
- The maps and navigation systems almost feel too fragmented and not very well integrated with the rest of the system.
- Notifications centre - there isn't one. MS ran out of time, allegedly.
- The autocorrect does not always work well when typing. For example, it will not fix "ill" to "I'll" or "ive" to "I've" and other inconsistencies like that.
- The apps, well we know this has been done to death, but they are lacking. Not so much in quantity, as you may expect, just in quality. Example, the PayPal app is quite good but the eBay one is poor. Facebook is poor. I know you can use the People hub but still...
- No gapless playback for audio, but I knew that already.
- Beautiful piece of hardware to look at, and feels well built.
- Beautiful UI
- Good camera
- They are rare and interesting
fido said:
I really want to buy this phone but don't want a repeat of the N97 experience. When's the Lumia 930/40 coming out? The battery life is a big issue for me as I expect the phone to last a day at the very least. Will give it a try when Vodaphone launch it.
The N97 has burnt too many people, but others since then have been fine, such as the N8 and 808. In fact both of these are the devices that have convinced me that the 920 isn't worth an upgrade - the camera on the 920 is worse than the N8, and doesn't even come slightly close to the 808 in ability.ps. Vodaphone? A new network??? Oh, you mean vodaFone.
pps. I'm grouchy due to being back in the office.
fido said:
I really want to buy this phone but don't want a repeat of the N97 experience. When's the Lumia 930/40 coming out? The battery life is a big issue for me as I expect the phone to last a day at the very least. Will give it a try when Vodaphone launch it.
My 920 lasts two days now (took a few charges) even with me playing lots of paper dash, and streaming music via bluetooth to a speaker at the same time!The battery life seems quite good to me so far...
But ultimately, I think I will be going back to 'droid. Unsurprisingly, its just a more complete and powerful OS at this time.
Stuff like this doesn't help either.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/12/14/3767626/google-...
In short, if you can't be bothered reading it, its basically google pulling its sync services from WP8 users.
OK, they do say if you've set it up already it'll work (in most cases, its already done its work with contacts etc) and its not the end of the world, but given how deeply entrenched into googles services and apps I am, its just a whole lot easier just to continue using 'droid.
WP8 and the L920 show potential but its just not there yet for me.
But ultimately, I think I will be going back to 'droid. Unsurprisingly, its just a more complete and powerful OS at this time.
Stuff like this doesn't help either.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/12/14/3767626/google-...
In short, if you can't be bothered reading it, its basically google pulling its sync services from WP8 users.
OK, they do say if you've set it up already it'll work (in most cases, its already done its work with contacts etc) and its not the end of the world, but given how deeply entrenched into googles services and apps I am, its just a whole lot easier just to continue using 'droid.
WP8 and the L920 show potential but its just not there yet for me.
Bump,
Reading my previous post make me wonder where all the problems began....
I originally had a good battery life on the phone and after installing an app called Viber (bit like skype) the battery struggled to last six hours! After uninstall it came back but got progressively worse until it got to the stage of not lasting a full days use! I was not amused!
On Tuesday an update came through for the phone and after installation the battery was much better, currently it's been five hours since my last charge and it's at 100% After a whole day yesterday the battery was at 78% before I charged it overnight, I fully expect two whole days out of it now!
Very impressed that the issue has been sorted already!
Reading my previous post make me wonder where all the problems began....
I originally had a good battery life on the phone and after installing an app called Viber (bit like skype) the battery struggled to last six hours! After uninstall it came back but got progressively worse until it got to the stage of not lasting a full days use! I was not amused!
On Tuesday an update came through for the phone and after installation the battery was much better, currently it's been five hours since my last charge and it's at 100% After a whole day yesterday the battery was at 78% before I charged it overnight, I fully expect two whole days out of it now!
Very impressed that the issue has been sorted already!
freecar said:
Bump,
Reading my previous post make me wonder where all the problems began....
I originally had a good battery life on the phone and after installing an app called Viber (bit like skype) the battery struggled to last six hours! After uninstall it came back but got progressively worse until it got to the stage of not lasting a full days use! I was not amused!
On Tuesday an update came through for the phone and after installation the battery was much better, currently it's been five hours since my last charge and it's at 100% After a whole day yesterday the battery was at 78% before I charged it overnight, I fully expect two whole days out of it now!
Very impressed that the issue has been sorted already!
I think somebody else on here mentioned that Viber utterly borked battery life, had an update come through this week myself - apparently it was an EE specific update that dealt with some Portico radio issues. If that's the one you had then that might explain the improvement in battery life?Reading my previous post make me wonder where all the problems began....
I originally had a good battery life on the phone and after installing an app called Viber (bit like skype) the battery struggled to last six hours! After uninstall it came back but got progressively worse until it got to the stage of not lasting a full days use! I was not amused!
On Tuesday an update came through for the phone and after installation the battery was much better, currently it's been five hours since my last charge and it's at 100% After a whole day yesterday the battery was at 78% before I charged it overnight, I fully expect two whole days out of it now!
Very impressed that the issue has been sorted already!
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