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Apple have been playing catch up on functionality for a couple of years now.
Android have been playing catch up on polish and technophobe take up for a few years more.
The polish side isn't such a big deal anymore now though and hasn't for at least a year. Android is over the noob-friendly hump for luddites making it the non-hipster option now.
I like the smoothness of iphone. I like the functionality that Android has more.
Android have been playing catch up on polish and technophobe take up for a few years more.
The polish side isn't such a big deal anymore now though and hasn't for at least a year. Android is over the noob-friendly hump for luddites making it the non-hipster option now.
I like the smoothness of iphone. I like the functionality that Android has more.
Android vs iOS is a little uneven though? iOS is iOS (I suspect there are few users using iOS 6 as the iOS comparator) but the various Android releases and manufacturers interpretations still 'current' make it difficult to compare. I gather Samsung's Android experience compared to Google's own Nexus 5 for example?
Blown2CV said:
I have one of each and android is bobbins. I base that on ease of use and polish, I'd rather the new features work well.
I have several of each and ios is bobbins. I base that on ease of use and polish, I'd rather the new features work well. Each to their own, opinion and all.
LordGrover hits it. I find it mind boggling Samsung is so popular, their implementation of Android is pretty terrible imho (probably the worst I've yet experienced).
LG, The Nexus devices, Motorola and even HTC do a much, much better job.
"doing new features right" is just a nice way to try and justify being behind ages.
Fact is, Android has played catch up a couple of years but since android 4.x they really just passed iOS and never looked back.
If you look at how the settings are laid out on my iPhone now compared to my android devices, I'd be pretty amazed they could do widgets half as good as Android does it.
I'm actually surprised they even bothered implementing it, since every iPhone user I've spoken to, ever, indicated that they would never use it and find the concept of "widgets" just terrible.
At least with IOS you get regular updates, and to Apple's credit, for devices going back years.
In Android world the OS update availability is an utter mess (to the majority of consumers anyway who don't root/jailbreak) especially when the device manufacturer comes into play and even worse if there's a telecoms provider insisting on their control too - I've had the odd Android update since I got a direct-google Nexus device but the Samsung Android devices I had beforehand never got a single OS update or patch.
In Android world the OS update availability is an utter mess (to the majority of consumers anyway who don't root/jailbreak) especially when the device manufacturer comes into play and even worse if there's a telecoms provider insisting on their control too - I've had the odd Android update since I got a direct-google Nexus device but the Samsung Android devices I had beforehand never got a single OS update or patch.
kev1974 said:
At least with IOS you get regular updates, and to Apple's credit, for devices going back years.
Agreed. Although I never quite got why the iPhone 4 didn't get siri, amongst others?kev1974 said:
In Android world the OS update availability is an utter mess (to the majority of consumers anyway who don't root/jailbreak) especially when the device manufacturer comes into play and even worse if there's a telecoms provider insisting on their control too - I've had the odd Android update since I got a direct-google Nexus device but the Samsung Android devices I had beforehand never got a single update.
Hmm, I haven't owned that many Samsung devices, but the ones I had did get a number of updates. My BIL's SGS3 got an update the other week, and that's also over 2 years old? When they get the update, they also usually get the full feature set of the newer Android version.That said, I wished I never updated my 4S to iOS 7. iOS 7.1 has somewhat improved on this though, but it's nowhere near as responsive as it was on iOS 6.
Google is working on the updating fragmentation, they have split up a lot of the integrated/system apps so that they can update them no matter what device/manufacturer (play services for example).
And if you really care about updates that much, the Nexus devices are google's own, much like the iPhone is Apple's own device to update.
kev1974 said:
At least with IOS you get regular updates, and to Apple's credit, for devices going back years.
In Android world the OS update availability is an utter mess (to the majority of consumers anyway who don't root/jailbreak) especially when the device manufacturer comes into play and even worse if there's a telecoms provider insisting on their control too - I've had the odd Android update since I got a direct-google Nexus device but the Samsung Android devices I had beforehand never got a single OS update or patch.
Aye, you get updates that turn your phone into a slow and clunky PoS. looking at my 4S here with iOS7 .... The issue with your old Samsung devices was down to Samsung. The Nexus OS updates tend to come in a slightly different way - minor patches are just downloaded via Google Play, only the major updates are done the more traditional manner.In Android world the OS update availability is an utter mess (to the majority of consumers anyway who don't root/jailbreak) especially when the device manufacturer comes into play and even worse if there's a telecoms provider insisting on their control too - I've had the odd Android update since I got a direct-google Nexus device but the Samsung Android devices I had beforehand never got a single OS update or patch.
But most people don't care about the OS udpates. On Android people can get the equivalent of the iOS6 to 7 update by changing the launcher, but as the end of the day all that they truly care about is - can I call/text/email, can I browse the web, can I take selfies and post them to twitinstafacewhatever.
Which they can do without any problems.
kev1974 said:
At least with IOS you get regular updates, and to Apple's credit, for devices going back years.
In Android world the OS update availability is an utter mess (to the majority of consumers anyway who don't root/jailbreak) especially when the device manufacturer comes into play and even worse if there's a telecoms provider insisting on their control too - I've had the odd Android update since I got a direct-google Nexus device but the Samsung Android devices I had beforehand never got a single OS update or patch.
Really does depend on the manufacturer, on my Xperias I've always had at least 18 months worth of updates. They usually arrive after the Nexus updates, but I'm happy with that as they almost always add new functionality to each update, in addition to the new features on the new version of Android. In Android world the OS update availability is an utter mess (to the majority of consumers anyway who don't root/jailbreak) especially when the device manufacturer comes into play and even worse if there's a telecoms provider insisting on their control too - I've had the odd Android update since I got a direct-google Nexus device but the Samsung Android devices I had beforehand never got a single OS update or patch.
Much like ZesPak I've never really understood the fascination with Samsungs, generally cheaply made, with hideous colour balances on the displays and the abortion that is TouchWiz. I find the Nexus and Xperia devices far nicer to use, much better built too.
kev1974 said:
At least with IOS you get regular updates, and to Apple's credit, for devices going back years.
In Android world the OS update availability is an utter mess (to the majority of consumers anyway who don't root/jailbreak) especially when the device manufacturer comes into play and even worse if there's a telecoms provider insisting on their control too - I've had the odd Android update since I got a direct-google Nexus device but the Samsung Android devices I had beforehand never got a single OS update or patch.
Really? Android has separated most apps and some systems from the core OS so 'patches' as such are no longer required. Core individual apps are updated as/when required. Clearly we get the occasional update such as 4.4.3 earlier this week, but they are few and far between.In Android world the OS update availability is an utter mess (to the majority of consumers anyway who don't root/jailbreak) especially when the device manufacturer comes into play and even worse if there's a telecoms provider insisting on their control too - I've had the odd Android update since I got a direct-google Nexus device but the Samsung Android devices I had beforehand never got a single OS update or patch.
LordGrover said:
Really? Android has separated most apps and some systems from the core OS so 'patches' as such are no longer required. Core individual apps are updated as/when required. Clearly we get the occasional update such as 4.4.3 earlier this week, but they are few and far between.
Well, to be fair, there are always a tonne of people who know little or nothing about either systems other than "internet myth", or stuff that was applicable 6 years ago.BTW, Did you know that you can't even copy-paste text on the iPhone?
BenM77 said:
ZesPak said:
BTW, Did you know that you can't even copy-paste text on the iPhone?
Really?I use copy and paste on my iPhone.
Sorry, it was tongue in cheek, simulating the "Android isn't as smooth" "Android isn't as easy to use" and "Android isn't as stable".
The pretense was: "I had an Android phone one and didn't get an update." = "Android doesn't update."
I said: "I had an iphone and couldn't do copy-paste." = "Can't copy-paste in iOS."
Edited by ZesPak on Thursday 12th June 13:07
ZesPak said:
BenM77 said:
ZesPak said:
BTW, Did you know that you can't even copy-paste text on the iPhone?
Really?I use copy and paste on my iPhone.
Sorry, it was tongue in cheek, simulating the "Android isn't as smooth" "Android isn't as easy to use" and "Android isn't as stable".
The pretense was: "I had an Android phone one and didn't get an update." = "Android doesn't update."
I said: "I had an iphone and couldn't do copy-paste." = "Can't copy-paste in iOS."
Edited by ZesPak on Thursday 12th June 13:07
ZesPak said:
Sorry, it was tongue in cheek, simulating the "Android isn't as smooth" "Android isn't as easy to use" and "Android isn't as stable".
The pretense was: "I had an Android phone one and didn't get an update." = "Android doesn't update."
I said: "I had an iphone and couldn't do copy-paste." = "Can't copy-paste in iOS."
Edited by ZesPak on Thursday 12th June 13:07
james_gt3rs said:
It's true though IMO... I have an iPhone and a Nexus 7 tablet. The Android software crashes occasionally (iOS never), and the iPhone interface is more responsive to touch. Shame the iPad is so expensive!
IME iOS software crashes all the time, it just doesn't tell you it's crashed - you just get dumped back to the app drawer. Android at least lets you know whats happened and where Chrome has gone (even though I find crashes in Chrome on Android much less frequent than Safari).bodhi said:
IME iOS software crashes all the time, it just doesn't tell you it's crashed - you just get dumped back to the app drawer. Android at least lets you know whats happened and where Chrome has gone (even though I find crashes in Chrome on Android much less frequent than Safari).
didn't Forbes or similar come to this conclusion when doing a test on both platforms? Android crashes less but it gives you a message when an app crashes?Gassing Station | Computers, Gadgets & Stuff | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff